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Old 01-17-2013, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Mammyof3boys View Post
Desperation... What was it?
desperation-at the end of one’s rope or tether At the end of one’s endurance or resources, out of options; exasperated, frustrated.
for me, it was when the pain of getting drunk exceeded the pain of reality. it was take another drink and kill myself or get help.
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