That must have been a fantastic experience Inda. Norman likely was one of the ones current historians missed when they tried to figure out who got sober before the BB was published. Likely there were over 100 sober for some period of time before BB publication. Doc Silkworth stated "this man (Bill) an over 100 others appear to have recovered". I'm going to send you a PM. There are some history folks who will likely be quite interested in this name. All the best.