Without those meetings? You betcha, I found them so depressing and demoralizing. The alternatives to 12 step programs do not require 'immersion' or conversion or some sort of awakening. The only leap of faith that is required is the belief that you have the power to choose, and the ability to have a life without alcohol.
Obladi has laid it out for you very well. I wonder if this is the thread that was mentioned?
http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...art-5-a-8.html