kana, I think counting days helps some people. Maybe not myself though? Doesn't being honest here count? Why does it matter if I'm honest with other drunks at the AA clubhouse? I enjoy running meetings & giving leads. I suspect others who have long term sobriety in the program have had minor slips. I once knew a guy who supposedly had 12yrs of sobriety. I saw his pickup truck parked at Charlie's Tavern a few times.