Lizatola- wow did that bring back memories... I didn't get"define that" but I did get "be specific- give me an example" & like a fool I'd take the bait & give examples of the treatment I was asking him to stop & then gas lighting tactics would ensue, or minimizing of the examples I'd provide which he'd always deny had ever occurred. It's a wonder I still have my sanity- hell, it's a wonder any of us do!