I am very pleased to see a secular thread dealing with addiction. I've never come across a mini-community that deals with it in a secular manner. My mother who is suffering from addiction is religious and so are my family members who fund her recovery programs, and so they are adamant about projects that repeatedly fail (and are against most forms of medication that could probably help her.) No one wants to listen to any of my (or her) advice on what's best for her. Thanks for this thread.