Thanks for the responses TU. I have ordered the book. I wish they did the ebook. I like instant things! I think for someone who is so used to other methods of thinking about this, the I will never drink again mindset is fearful and scary to think about at first, especially in regards to failure. For me I like the absolute of it. However it is easy to have those niggling doubts that ask why this time is different. I have been told so many times that relapse is part of the road to recovery. Its definitely a different way of thinking.