This forum, IMHO, is intended TO have people call us on our "stinkin thinkin"..I don't think that the issue here is what one adult does to another, but that the kids are involved and don't get a choice as to their exposure to abusive, alcoholic father..this triggers people all over the place...has as long as I've been here and probably always will..ACOA's have no tolerance for that kind of stuff, and although I am not one, I work with children who come from families where there is DV, trained DSS workers on how to protect children, went to classrooms and spoke directly to kids about DV.As far as I know, no one can stress too much the impact this has had and will continue to have on the kids...