Originally Posted by
Thumper 
And of course he responded like that. It was all my fault that he was drinking himself silly no matter what I did or didn't do. If it isn't one thing its another - there is always a reason why *we* are the cause of *their* drinking. There is no way to get out of that one IME. Active alcoholics are always trying to twist things so it isn't their fault. You just have to quit listening to it and quit trying to explain it to him.
Goodness, yes.
"You really have more influence over me than you realize... You really need to get in my face about it."
"You need to remind me how horrible I feel the next day. Then I won't drink... or at least not as much maybe."
"It's for my health! Surely you can think of something if I mean anything to you..."
Every time I pointed out that not buying a pint and a half at a time would help, so at least he'd drink less and spread it out more, he'd get three half pint bottles anyway with the explanation "I'll just keep two in the car".
You can't help them, even if you want to, even if they claim they want you to.