I think most of us have friends like these Houndheart.
I look back at my 'friends' like these guys and I see drinking buddies now...
when I threatened our common bond, they got scared and, in some cases, resentful and downright hostile.
I left 'the gang' 3 years ago.
I'm doing fine without them...and from what I hear they seem to be partying like it's still 2007...good luck to them.
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