Originally Posted by Ago

Huh

I thought clean and sober was clean and sober

some people call "sober" only drinking moderately

some people think pot is harmless and even beneficial to "sobriety" which strangely enough I thought was abstinence from mind and mood altering drugs

some people have opinions that "jive", which I thought went out with the movie "Shaft" while others have opinions that "jibe"

jive: definition

transitive verb, intransitive verb jived, jiving jiv′·ing
Slang to speak (to) in a way that is exaggerated, insincere, flippant, etc., esp. in trying to fool or mislead

jibe definition

intransitive verb jibed, jibing jib′·ing

1. to shift from one side of a ship to the other when the stern passes across a following or quartering wind: said of a fore-and-aft sail or its boom
2. to change the course of a ship so that the sails shift thus
3. Informal: to be in harmony, agreement, or accord: often with with accounts that don't jibe

So if we can't even agree with what a one syllable word consisting of only four letters means no wonder we have trouble with two syllable words and abstract concepts here such as:

Clean and Sober:



Pot doesn't help with being "clean and sober" because by definition, doing drugs is neither, pot can help those feelings of anxiety, but that is using one drug to combat the effects of another, which, by definition, is neither clean nor sober.

Voting on what a word means doesn't change the meaning of that word, I can decide that poopybutt is a term of endearment and have a vote and a poll but it has no bearing on what the word means nor is the word subject to change just because I want it to mean "lovable"

Words mean what they mean

I'm with you Andy, this is confizzling