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Old 12-20-2009, 04:14 PM
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basIam
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Originally Posted by bugsworth View Post
I'm sorry about your friends, but the reality is what you witnessed is people who didn't want to do what it takes to get sober.
Absolutely. . . And the reason they didnt want to do what it took is they didnt think it was necessary. They believed in their ability to make correct choices. They believed that their self knowledge would be adequate.

It takes only one example to prove my contention true - that self knowledge is useless for an alcoholic. Unfortunately, there are countless.

I do not propose that you, bugsworth, are incapable of staying sober on self knowledge. I am not contending that you, bugsworth, did not lose the power of choice.

I actually believe that about you. I believe there are many people like you.

I know for a FACT - F*A*C*T - that there are also alot of people NOT like you. Myself for one, judging from what Aysha, mmeat and others have said, them as well, but I may be wrong.

Furthermore, I know there are alot of people not like you who will die believing they are like you. How do I know? Because I have seen it.

You contend everyone IS like you - that is arrogant. And I repeat - dangerous.
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