Originally Posted by
Aysha 
**** I will probably die if I keep going. Why do you think I am here to begim with?
This topic got really freakin lame.
Some of you need to grow up.
I think you miss the point, Aysha.
I think the point is, getting sober is not always as simple as putting ones 'mind to it' and that it has killed alot of people who believed that it was.
Self knowledge is useless for an alcoholic. As a matter of fact, that is one of the primary symptoms of alcoholism. As you have clearly pointed out, alcoholism has killed many people who thought they could stay sober on self knowledge alone.
This is the fatal component that needs to be stressed and stressed again.
So I think we are in agreement, arent we?