i understand what u mean, when u have tryd and tryd to kick the habbit ... and now u want to for good , and so do i . im trying to recover from abusing roxy 30's and oxy 80's for about a year..the withdrws are so unbeatabel .. that i feel and thank i cant beat it , every time i try i find my self finding the money to get just one more .. .then ill stop using .. i need help on starting this new way of life , because iv found out that i cant do it alone .. so if there is anyone that can relate please do ,