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Old 10-16-2009, 09:28 PM
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socialismislost
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Originally Posted by joedris View Post
You're correct in that AA says you can make anything your higher power. I was speaking for myself and my own approach to the higher power concept. You can use whatever you want as a higher power, or nothing at all if that's your belief. AA doesn't insist on having one, it merely suggests that. I'm not sure where you're going with the spiritual disease thing. AA is a spiritual program and alcoholism is a disease. And spitituality in the AA sense is merely your personal relationship with a higher power.

I'm also not familiar with anything that AA has ever said that indicates one is born with the disease of alcoholism. Some folks may feel that way. I don't. One may have a genetic predisposition for the disease, but only alcohol causes one to actually have it. And if you're predisposed yet never drink, then I don't think you're an alcoholic. But I'm gonna leave that one to the scientists. It really has nothing to do with recovery, and recovery is purpose of SR.

You obviously are an AA type, and Im not. The BB and every meeting Ive ever attended started off and ended with prayer and spirituality was the foundation. In fact, its in most of the steps, and suggests strongly that alcoholism is a spiritual disease. The BB has several stories of being born with alcoholism, and the BB is the main book of AA, so Im sure youre familiar

If alcohol causes one to be alcoholic, then every person that has ever drank alcohol, would be an alcoholic. Are you asking for AA to be shot down? PM me if you ever want to talk.
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