Originally Posted by
allport 
Forget god (and how I wish you all would) my point was that that a discussion that involves any 12 step program is not appropriate for this forum.
I completely agree.
The only reason I brought up the 12-steps was in
response to Stone saying, "Believing in god may help your recovery, but it does not prove that a god exists."
His response is to an argument that I never made in the first place. LOL
Reguardless, it's not my intention to try to foist the 12-steps on anybody in this base and I would not have even mentioned it had it not beeen for Stone's off-topic Ad Hominem.
Morning Glory's post was right on.
--Outvoid--