i agree with kitty. i'm at 7yrs clean but my ah is maybe still using off and on. i don't really know about him since i'm currently in no contact mode with him. i've had 9yr and 5yrs clean and still relapsed but still i feel it was a positive outcome on my part. today i've been able to maintain my sobriety with 2 kids in tow, today i'm free of the anger and disappoints of living in addiction and i do sympathize with my addict. i guess it depends on what the individual idea of a positive outcome is.