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Old 04-21-2009, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bartender129 View Post

For recovery they explain one technique "AVRT" which is thought recognition and nothing more. The books point out the obvious, that it is important to recognize the thoughts that tell you it is ok to drink or use.

So I did. I was able to point out the thoughts in my head that told me to drink. Super!

Now what?

See, the "Rational" recovey books don't teach you what to do with those thoughts. To say that it is a limited recovery program is putting it mildly.

After that, 90% of the book is choc-full of Jack Trimpey's hatred of 12 step programs. Jack is a hateful, arrogant person. I've met him in real life and he is as much that way in person as he is in his writing.
Couldn't have said it better... NOW WHAT!!!

Jack is arrogant and hateful??? Gee, wonder why.... I have gotten pretty good at recognizing that voice... right!!... Super, NOW WHAT!!! What about serenity, happiness, gratitude, finding meaning and purpose in life?

If all I was doing was recognizing the voice, I'd be a wreck... because that voice is still speaking... why??, I can hear it?, but how do I make it stop?!!

AA, for me, quiets that voice, now that's what I want!!

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