Originally Posted by
Eroica 
Double thanks for that bam. Agree 100% But how do we go about fighting fundementalism. I agree that challenging their ideas is important, but we have to ally ourselves with moderates too instead of just dismissing or attacking the religion. I have moderate Muslim relatives in Pakistan but there are really reactionary fundamentalist types as well who are going around killing everyone there by bombing cars/mosques. But saying stuff in the media like "The Islamic threat" or "clash of the civilizations" alienates the moderates more instead of helping to fight the fundamentalists.
Exactly. I honestly don't know what to do. I think that's why Dawkins and others like him are so off-putting. In a way they're hurting their cause by ignoring basic human psychology. I do think it's important have religious allies. Positive change will not happen without them.