Old 12-03-2008, 01:16 PM
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tommyk
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I stayed clean & sober for ten years without even knowing the 12 steps existed.

I used the sheer "I do not drink or use no matter what" method.

But I'm not sure that clean time is the same as 'recovery'.

I discovered the steps a little over 4 years ago, the steps have changed my life in ways I never thought possible, and I am now cetain what 'recovery' means (for me).

Today, I try and live the 12 steps.

But to semi-answer your question, yes, I believe people can find recovery without using the steps.
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