I wouldn't be agreeing with you all in every case cuz I have a 70 yr old cousin and he is the salt of the earth and the best guy you would like to meet, but in my son's case I now think you guys have a valid point. I will try calling him Joe, and when he corrects me I 'll tell him what outtolunch said. Joe is the guy in jail, my Joey is gone ( long gone ) It makes me so sad. I miss my son.