beegee - i guess i started that and i'm sure you didnt mean to - but do appreciate you clairfying. its just a very sore subject for me. i've been told for a long time by my son and others that his drug problems are because of me and how i raised him. i went through a lot of guilt and tried to make up for this so called "shortcoming" in myself when i finally realized that it had absolutely nothing to do with me or how i raised him. I refuse to take any of the blame for what he is now. I dont take credit for my children's successes and i dont take the blame for their failures.