only in AA/NA can you have 10 years clean and be a dry drunk/dry addict or not have "quality soberity"
one of my teachers, who i love to death BTW but just to prove a point, said she previously had 6 years clean off of no program at all, just staying clean. But while she was clean 6 years it was not "quality clean time". now she has been clean 2 years in AA but it's quality becuase she's working the steps. I pointed out to her how can she be in a position to knock the 6 yeras clean she had when it's the longest she's ever been clean since she started using? how much sense does that make?