frankly, It does hurt but not seeing my daughter has been about my choices too. I know that when I talk recovery with her and challenge her denial about what she is doing that I will get "no contact". I also know that being around her too much is not good for me because I see the progression of her disease. I truly believe that I am in the stage of grief that includes sadness and it is something that I have to get through. I also know that addiction is not the only cause of estrangement from our kids and I am not alone in this. That is comforting. thanks, Marle