Originally Posted by
NYC17 
There is a lot of talk on here about how alcoholics lie and manipulate so they can keep drinking but what about when they aren't drinking and it seems that their behavior is the same? Lying and creating fights. What is the motivation when they aren't drinking? Is it just a selfish mode that they are always in?
A more productive and pertinent question for me was "Why do I want so badly to have a relationship with a selfish, lying, manipulating person?"
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