Miss Pink, If you read above, someone does understand my issue exactly at the level I'm interested in hearing about...living it!!! Yes, getting medical advice is of course a must do but that is not for "me" to do since I have healed past the need to enable. That step is for my stbx to do, and/or those in his life still in the whirlwind by his addiction. I am posting questions for 'my' need to just know if someone has lived it....and I did find someone who has. So you see "someone here" here does know how to address my issue.