personally, what i think of is, you can't have recovery without cleantime.
and i feel like a person who's found na and is clean has SOME recovery, maybe not the type recovery i want for myself, but if they didn't use that day, they're doing better that i did before i found NA. if all they did was went to a meeting, at least that's something.
most of us know that it does take more than just not using, or even going to meetings, but its something.
we dont get better over night. it takes years in some areas of our lives. where do we draw the line of you're better enough to be considered in 'recovery'?