my thanks to hanging' for the post........just seems I am conflicted because if I had not gotten involved previoul;y when he was in the active throes of addicition I know he would have died.....the Dr. in the ER told me so.........so I guess I am trying to resolve all of this............like when is enough enough? Especially when he couldn't really see how bad it had gotten.........in other words if you can't (meaning the adult son) can't make a decision because of active addicition do you let them continue on in harms way? Just trying to sort it all out.....my thanks....dixie