Hi HT
As I said before much of AA's statements are so slippery that it is hard to reply efficiently to them.
Some Atheists may believe that you need a spiritual experience to become sober, but AA's use of "Spiritual Experience" is not what most Atheists would agree on. In real life a cigar is just a cigar, but in AA as we know a doorknob is not just a doorknob!!
AB
Originally Posted by
historyteach 
Well, I guess you can punch holes in the program.
But, you cannot doubt that AA helps many people today, jsut as it did years ago. Too many of our members here are testiment to that reality.
Your original quote, (#222), says only a "you may be
suffering from an illness which only a spiritual experience will
conquer."
It does not say that AA and HP are the only way. That's what I was responding too. And many, even atheists and certainly agnostics, could agree to that statement today.
I'm not looking to argue. But, I stand by my statement that we have to keep things in their historic place, and not put today's mores and believes onto yesterdays truths.
Personally, I am THRILLED that there are options for people today. The goal is health and serenity. However you get there is irrelevant; getting there is what's important!
Shalom!