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Old 01-20-2007, 12:13 PM
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Abbadun
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Hi Zencat

I think that the point that everyone (of any belief) has to remember is that most people in AA screw up and never make it and what they believe about HP does not have anything to do with it. The desire and need to be sober has to be there.

For people that has used HP to stay sober, I can find people that did it without HP.

For people that did not use HP to stay sober, I can find them people that use HP to stay sober.

The problem is a dogma/doctrine that says one group of people are bad.

AB



Originally Posted by zencat View Post
"Unless each A.A. member follows to the best of his ability our suggested Twelve Steps to recovery, he almost certainly signs his own death warrant."
Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions, William G. Wilson, page 174.

"At the moment we are trying to put our lives in order. But this is not an end in itself. Our real purpose is to fit ourselves to be of maximum service to God..."
The Big Book, William G. Wilson, page 77.


Hey, I just want to recover from alcoholism. It sounds like my prospective recovery is going to be fraught with danger as an atheist. Not very encouraging to me!
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