Whats wrong with me....and whats right with me

[PaperDolls]

Same to you Jo.

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I'm down to two lortab. I'm going to try for another refill.

Busy at work....I like it that way. I'm happy these days. I still can't get my a$$ out of bed in the morning. I think my gf wants to kill me some mornings. She hates having to tell me to get up (5 times). It's pitiful.

Happy Tuesday everyone.
~doll

[c'est la vie]

I'm down to two lortab. I'm going to try for another refill.

If you REALLY needed them, you wouldn't have to "try" to get a refill. Be honest with yourself.
I hope you're well.

[Smyle]

Doll... I am on the same page as winelover.....Do you have enough pain that you need the lortab ???? Is it something that Ibuprofen would help with ? I would hate for you to start subbing the pills for the alcohol... I did that but subbed booze for the pills...i am an addict and that applys to a lot of things for me...booze, drugs , food, sex if you do not need them please reconsider taking them ? Have you found yourself a new therapist yet ? I know that may help...also I have a hard time getting out of bed in the morning esp if I have been taking pills..hydro's or clonazepam..I feel soooo hungover...just be careful gf....hey did you say you take effexor ??Does that work for you ? happy tuesday love....~Barbara aka Beezy

[Justme57]

Hi PD hows things for you today? Hope all is well

I have been depressed +++++++++ lately, which is new for me, i told the Doc yesterday, and she wants to put me on antideps, i have never taken meds, so I am a leary, Cipramil, I might give it a try, beats crying all the time

HUGX
Lee

[GettingFree]

Originally Posted by PaperDolls

I think my gf wants to kill me some mornings. She hates having to tell me to get up (5 times). It's pitiful.

Hi PD,

When I read this, the first thing that went through my mind was my daughter. She also has a very difficult time getting up in the morning.

Like your gf, I used to go through repeated wake-up calls with her. That was before my recovery process began in earnest. It didn't please her too much, but I decided she had to become responsible for getting up (she's now 18 and my 'new approach' started about 2-3 years ago). It became clear that as long as I rescued her from the consequences of being late, she'd have no need to learn to look at why she had this pattern, and take any steps to change it.

As hard as it was to watch her go through the consequences, I realized the loving thing was to let her. To rescue her was actually enabling her to continue a pattern that may follow her through life, and take away the opportunity for her to learn important skills and habits. She's still not perfect, but a whole lot better, and takes far more responsibility for getting up and what she needs to do to do so.

You're clearly doing so much better in so many ways but do you think perhaps you're avoiding looking at why you can't get up in the morning? And that your gf is helping you avoid it by rescuing with repeated wake-ups? What would happen if she did nothing and you were just late for work repeatedly and your job threatened?

There's a good chance the lortab is a main contributor. And a growing dependence may keep you from seeing the connection. And your gf not letting you experience the consequence may be contributing to this dependence.

You're already seeing the signs of addiction -- knowing you shouldn't want more, calling in for a refill, getting the script, then feeling regret that the script was filled so quickly.

You say you take the lortab for energy -- well, cocaine gave me lots of energy too, until the next morning.

Here's what an online drug site says on Lortab you may want to consider.

fondly,
gf

ADVERSE REACTIONS
The most frequently reported adverse reactions are light-headedness, dizziness, sedation, nausea and vomiting. These effects seem to be more prominent in ambulatory than in non-ambulatory patients, and some of these adverse reactions may be alleviated if the patient lies down.

Other adverse reactions include:

Central Nervous System: Drowsiness, mental clouding, lethargy, impairment of mental and physical performance, anxiety, fear, dysphoria, psychic dependence, mood changes.

Hydrocodone is habit forming. It is possible to become physically and/or psychologically dependent on the medication. Do not take more than the prescribed amount of medication or take it for longer than is directed by your doctor. Withdrawal effects may occur if Lortab is stopped suddenly after several weeks of continuous use. Your doctor may recommend a gradual reduction in dose.

[goffredo]

Gettingfree

I agree with you entirely

Love Jo

[PaperDolls]

You're all right. I'm not taking the pills for pain but for energy. I'm done with them. Done. I'll tell my doctor.

And, gf, you're probably right. I do want to say that I have always had problems with getting up in the morning. I know that the pills contribute but it is not the only factor. I don't know what the other factor(s) is but I know there's something going on. My doc is aware of this and suggested a sleep-study but I can't afford the $900. I may just have to suck it up and find the money. If it would help me get the right sleep/rest it would be worth it.

Thank you all for telling me like it is.

Smyle - I do take effexor and I think it has really helped me. Mostly in small ways that are almost hard to notice. I just feel more "stabilized" and more in control of my emotions. I still get stressed out and "in my head" but more like a "normal" (what ever that means) person.

Lee -- I haven't heard of Cipramil. Wonder if their is a different US version. Either way -- you're right, it's worth a shot. Who wants to cry all the time? I hope you feel better soon. Keep us posted.

~doll

[GettingFree]

Originally Posted by PaperDolls

You're all right. I'm not taking the pills for pain but for energy. I'm done with them. Done. I'll tell my doctor.

Wow Doll, good for you. I'm sure with the approach you've taken to your sobriety with alcohol, you can do this too!

Originally Posted by PaperDolls

I have always had problems with getting up in the morning. My doc is aware of this and suggested a sleep-study but I can't afford the $900.

I'm not sure how long you mean by always having problems getting up in the morning, but I wonder if it makes sense to invest money in a sleep study before stablizing your system and having a good long stretch with no drugs or chemicals in it. If you've gone from alcohol to lortab, your body hasn't really had any time to be completely clean, and that may have some interesting (i.e. positive) effects on your sleep, your energy level and feeling rested.

I seem to remember that you didn't talk with your doctor about your addiction and alcohol issues (not sure if I'm recollecting right on that?). If that's true, I'm wondering if he'd be recommending you invest this money in a sleep study at this time? You may want to discuss this with him and get it all out on the table if you havent'.

best,

gf

[Done_With_It]

Hey Doll,

Just poppin in here to say Hello. Good you recognized that your taking the pills for energy, I love the energy pills too. Those are a toughie.

Keep it up, your doing great!!

[PaperDolls]

Hi DWI - thanks for poppin' in.

The doc refilled my script. It's going to be hard for me not to pick it up.

[c'est la vie]

Be strong. Call the pharmacist and tell them over the phone you won't be picking it up. That's got to be easier than figuring out what to do with it once it's in your hands.

[PaperDolls]

I'll try to be strong. Thank you winelover.

[Justme57]

Good Morning PD!

Just dropping by to see how you are today?

Hope you managed to hang off the meds, be strong Doll

catch you tomorrow

Take care
HUGX
Lee

[PaperDolls]

Hi Lee - Thanks for checking in. I hope you're feeling better today. Did you start the meds?

At the moment - I feel like I've hit a brick wall - I'm ready to crawl in my bed. May be my cold is coming back?

On the pills - so far, so good. I've been strong.

~doll

[Justme57]

Good onya Doll, hang in there !

Yep, started the meds yeasterday, they take 21 days to kick in , so we will see

HUGX
Lee

[Smyle]

hey doll,
Way to hang in there... I have been really sick too...some kind of nasty cold. My son and I have been snuggled up sleeping it off taking decongestants. Hope you feel better. It does not seem to linger long...Drink lots of water and get lots of SLEEP !!!!
~take care~ Beezy

[PaperDolls]

Good Lee - I hope they start working for you. I had to switch meds once because the first they put me on didn't work real well.

I was weak this morning. I picked up the script.

I felt like crap last night. Neausous, weak, shaking. I've got some PMS going on so that could be it. Could it be from the pills? I didn't take any yesterday. Is it possible that's why I felt crappy?! I picked them up this morning because I still didn't feel well and I wanted to see if that was it. I took one at 830am and I think may be I do feel a little better. What a dumba$$ I am!

[amymarie]

(((Paperdolls)))
I am sorry you are going through this... I hope it all works out for the best...

[Smyle]

Doll...
I was wondering how you are feeling. Do you think it was like a cold or PMS? Have you or did you take anymore ? Your not a dumb***, I wanted to take some med's besides the prescribed. It is hard to be strong but we all know you can do it !!! This too shall pass... Hang on...we are here!!!!

[Hope]

(((Paperdolls)))

I'm sorry that you are going through such a difficult time. We are here for you through it all.

Love,
Cheryl

[GettingFree]

Hi PD,

How are you doing? I know you've been struggling and many of us have been encouraging you about going off the lortab.

If you're having a difficult time, please know we've all been there -- there's no shame here. I hope it's not keeping you from posting.

We're here for you. Have a great weekend!

gf

[PaperDolls]

Good morning all. I've been out with a cold for a few days. I'm at work but feeling pretty crappy. I took the last of the lortab on saturday and then in bed all day sunday and monday with the cold. I'm starting to get better and I'm not planning on refilling the script. Thank you all for the encourgement. It really means a lot to me.

So -- I haven't had any lortab since Saturday, 3 days ago, and I'm doing fine without them. Even with my cold, I don't need them. Now, the cold medicine and nyquil, I need that LOL but I don't need the lortab.

~doll

[daddysgirl29]

Hi PPD. Good to see you and I'm glad you're feeling better.

[PaperDolls]

Thanks dg! I'm still down from this cold, or whatever I have. Still no lortab, just the cold medicine.

~doll

[c'est la vie]

I'm glad to see you're still hangin in there. I hope your cold passes and you start to feel back to yourself.