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momofthree · 12-28-2002, 02:59 PM

I'm just gonna ramble, cause I don't want to live with things eating me up inside. I don't have a sponsor, I want one, it just seems so hard to get the ball rolling. I feel like knowbody could get the whole picture of my life cause it is so &*% complicated. I know I'm gonna seem selfish, and I guess that's my whole prob, I am not at that point in my life where everything DOESN'T revolve on how it's gonna effect me. I wish I was, I am just so consumed with my life and my issues that I can't get past that. I know thime is moving so quickly and I am wasting so much of it by not getting into the steps. I think I'm going to start my 4th even without a sponsor. I gotta get this out so I can get past it, and that's the only way. People, especially my husband and kids suffer cause my head's not right. They deserve to have a whole woman. they've had to put up with me and my childish ways for too long. I gotts to get it together. Life would not be so hard if I got a grip on who I am, how tick, what I want, my limitations, my boundaries. Everything bothers me. I want to get well. I know I can; I will.

Peacefulpie · 12-28-2002, 03:22 PM

Mom....

I don't mean to rain on your parade... however I feel that you are jumping way ahead of your self here... there is a reason we take the steps in the order they are and that we do them with a guide.... From reading this post I dont feel that you have yet worked step 1 thouroghly you may have admited powerlessness yet you have yet to see the unmanagability of it... then we proceed to step 2... we come to believe that a power greater than our selves can restore us to sanity... for most at this time a power greater is the unity of the 12 step group and working with a sponsor who guides us into step 3 so that we may make a decision to turn our will and our life over to God as we understand him.... I am sorry however I just dont feel that working a 4rth step without a sponsor and the first 3 steps is a good idea.. and will leave room for relapse in the near futur.
I suggest that you go to a meeting and when they open the floor for discussion you get humble and ask someone anyone...
You are not as unique as you believe your troubles are.. There are many of us who have and feel the same as you.... I also suggest that you go back and read some of our posting you will find on this forum alone that you are not alone... Remeber we did not get here over night and we will not get back over night. There is a reason the first word in our first step is WE... and there is a reason that in the Big Book of AA ever chapter starts with the word WE... it is proof that you are no longer alone that you no longer have to be alone... remeber it was your best thinking that brought you to where you are at now...
Be well my friend...

momofthree · 12-28-2002, 03:45 PM

thank you for your reply, I hoped to get some feedback on the subject. I don't believe I have a problem with the unmanageability part of it, and please, if you casn point out where I show that, let me be aware of it.I will admit I have had a problem with acceptance, but I truly believe I am past that. I have been around the program for over ten years, with a period of almost four years sobriety and I can recite the Big Book (not that that does me any good), but the first time it states that you must have someone in your recovery is in the fifth step. It suggests to do the third with someone understanding, but it also says it's not necessary. There is a sense of urgency with me. for aside from the four years, I cannot get any substantial time together, and I don;'t want to lose what I have right now. It also says in the Book that we can't waste any time once we are aware of the need for a fourth step. Please let me know your thoughts on this.

Peacefulpie · 12-28-2002, 03:55 PM

Quote:

I feel like knowbody could get the whole picture of my life cause it is so &*% complicated. I know I'm gonna seem selfish, and I guess that's my whole prob, I am not at that point in my life where everything DOESN'T revolve on how it's gonna effect me. I wish I was, I am just so consumed with my life and my issues that I can't get past that.

That my friend is unmanagability.... as I see it...

Peacefulpie · 12-28-2002, 03:59 PM

P.S.

I still hold by how I feel about a sponsor and the working of the steps...

momofthree · 12-28-2002, 04:43 PM

ok, that pretty much shows that my life is unmanageable, and I am aware of that, but I didn't think you were supposed to wait to do the steps until your life WAS manageable. The point of the steps is to make your life more manageable, no? To give myself a clearer picture of my life and what needs to be changed about it. How am I gonna find out if I don't do the steps? The steps help to make us less self-centered and more God-conscious. Maybe I am wrong, but I can't live in misery anymore. Why wait to better myself?

zoomer · 12-28-2002, 04:50 PM

Just have to add a little something here and it's not about a program or what not! When I had to push with my 7 year old when I was in labor, and the nurse said I was not dialated enough and the doctor was not near, I listioned to her. The nurse was also training a nurse's aid and I could actually see that the head nurse was "crazy with power"! (Pie,I'm not talkng about you, OK!). Anyway, by the time the doctor came, I all but gave up. I did not have the streghth to push because the time had passed! The doctor looked at me and said "My God,why did you not call me sooner"to the head nurse! He had them give me ice chips and told me to get mad as hell, I did and my daughter was born. Of course there were complications,she asperated and sucked in feases (her own poop) in her lungs. I did not get to hold her for hours after she was born. The thing I'm trying to point out is that if you feel the need to do a step,then do an informal one! You do not have to wait for anyone to get well! We and Me are one letter seperated from being the same. God is always with you!
Zoomer

Peacefulpie · 12-28-2002, 04:51 PM

hmmm if you felt that I was telling you to wait... well there is a comunication gap somewhere... Oh No my friend that is not what I meant at all. My suggestion to you is to thoroughly work step one and then to work up the steps... the way I read your post to me it sounded as if you were going straight to step 4... I still encourage you to find a woman who has worked the steps to guide you through them.

momofthree · 12-28-2002, 06:20 PM

Thank you so much for showing an interest. I think I know what I have to do, now. I am making my program so much harder than is necessary. I don't even know what I am afraid of when it comes to getting a sponsor, or just letting people into my life. Fear of rejection, I guess. It doesn't even make sense when I have had nothing but warm conversations with other women from the program. In the meantime, I will start my 4th step. I have just been so afraid that I am not ready, when deep down, I know I need to do this, NOW. I do believe that I have a pretty strong hold on the 1st 3 steps and they won't do me any good if I don't push forward.

It's nice that I truly feel this is a special forum, I just wish I wasn't so wrapped up in my own problems, because I really yearn to be in a position to help other people, especially women. I just have so many issues, I'm tired of being me. Just plain tired.

Needless to say, I had a rough day, I thank God I found this site and I don't know what compelled me to come here today, but I am glad I did.

Peacefulpie · 12-28-2002, 06:38 PM

I dont know if you are aware of this but today you were in the position to help me.... You helped me work with another and for me wqorking with others is key to my continued sobriety... Thank you for allowing me to participate in your recovery today and for participating in mine.

zoomer · 12-28-2002, 10:27 PM

I just have to laugh! The reason I never could convert to being a Catholic is because I just do not belive in confession! Poor priest if I ever did confess my sins! Plus, I'd be saying "hail mary's" for the rest of my life! O' I confess to god for sure an did confess some of the junk to this wonderful guy in the program many years ago. Ha, I taked about things in my childhood and he said "give yourself a break,you were just a kid"! O I do tell al, I cant keep things inside, but some stuff was ment to keep to yourself
Zoomer

momofthree · 12-28-2002, 10:34 PM

Thanks for helping me get through the day.

Paulie · 12-29-2002, 09:43 AM

mom -

I hope you are having a better day today then yesterday.

I just want to toss my 4 cents in here if you don't mind.

This is my own experience/opinion...doing the steps by yourself is self will, for me to get sober and stay sober I had to be in God's will. I could not do this in the beginning, in the beginning I had to just surrender. That for me meant doing what I was told from someone that came before me, a sponsor. It is fear that holds me back, and probably you also.

After being blessed with 7 years clean, I lost touch with my sponsor (moved away) and got real miserable, I had to get sick and tired of being miserable enough to find a new sponsor and start the steps AGAIN...doing them with a sponsor a completely different way then with my old sponsor. My first sponsor that I had for over 6 years did them out of the Big Book, my new sponsor uses the NA workbook, complete different way of approaching the same stuff that i have stuffed, interesting huh???

Walk through the fear...and get a sponsor, start at step 1 with that sponsor. You will learn so much about yourself and your disease. You will relized unmanagibilty that you were not aware of (when you were using) and alot more.

god Bless

Blazinglory · 12-29-2002, 11:10 AM

May God Bless you and thanks so much for your honesty.

"An addict/alcoholic alone is in bad company" especially when working the Steps to the best of our ability. This statement is directed at myself also. My sponsor (((Blaze))) passed away almost three years ago and it seems like I cannot get past that. She was was my very best friend also and taught me about the simplicity of this beautiful program. How I loved this woman and I wanted what she had especially a working knowledge of the 12 Steps. Her words still ring in my ears today, "Until we women decide to work together, we will never get it right." (She was talking about sponsor/sponsee relationships & working the Steps together)

Today, I have a sponsor online because recovery in the area is not strong also due to my work schedule I have to do what I can to work the Steps and stay clean. I would LOVE to have a f2f sponsor but in this area that's not reality. I need a sponsor with quality clean time, one that has worked the Steps, etc...I know of one woman in this area that is currently on her 4th Step and has three years clean (I cleaned up in 1983). For this addict I need someone who has "been there and done that." If I was 9 months pregnant it would be hard for me to listen to someone that's 3 months pregnant with her first child to tell me the discomfort she is in and try to tell me how to work through it...That analogy may sound a little crazy but that's how it is for me.

This too is a simple program for complicated people. Very SIMPLE suggestions is what it took for me to get where I'm at today and these are: #1 Keep HP first, Go to meetings, Get a Sponsor, Work the Steps, Help others and the bottom line________WE stay clean no matter what. If I stay clean today those other minor inconveniences to those temporary problems seem so small in comparison. I look back to when I was a newcomer...I would cry myself to sleep some nights because I HAD STAYED CLEAN 24 HOURS...what a miracle, I didn't pick up!!! If I stay clean just for today....there really are NO BIG DEALS.

Thanks for letting me share

momofthree · 12-29-2002, 06:46 PM

Well, I am delighted that this has sparked such meaningful conversation and, yes, thank you, today was better, TG. I had to laugh while I was reading your post, Blaze, it must be hard to find a sponsor when you live in LA LA LAND. LOL. The best advice, all though I believe there is much, is don't pick up, no matter what. I would love to hear more about others' experiences with the 4th and 5th step if anyone would be so bold as to share about it over such a public arena. Again, thanks and God Bless.

mary558 · 12-29-2002, 08:08 PM

hi mom, i read ur post and boy did i identify with u to the tee. and after 8 years of sobriety i realpased. that was a good 3 years ago, i am now back in sobriety, and just recently went into a depression without even realizing it, and get this i'm on meds. Today i made a decision to get back on track with my sponsor, she is sober over 25 years, so i guess she has alot more knowledge than me. one of the reasons i too when i first came into the program some years back i had a hard time with woman and finding a sponsor......lo and behold she found me and has stayed wiht me the last 10years, thru all my ups and downs, and her too.....i am starting on my fourth step but i have to work the first one, the unmanageability part for me was the hardes to accept in all areas of my life, today i do, and u know what mom it's not that bad anymore, then 2 step trying to do the same things over and getting the same results.........for me unmanageability, 2nd step is also lighten up dont' be so hard on yourself......3 rd step for me is the acceptance of who i am and where i am at, and know that he is always with me......my will leads me right back to unmanageability, wether it be finanacial or emotional...don't know if this makes any sense.....but just make a descion, to get a sponsor and work the steps with her...it's really not that bad......good luck, if u feel u ever need to talk let me know and i will email u my home phone no,,,,,,i am in ny city......god bless and good luck mom.... mary

zoomer · 12-29-2002, 08:41 PM

Hey Welcome! Pauline and others will I'm sure tell you all about things, but I just wanted to say hi, and this is a great place to be!
Zoomer

Blazinglory · 12-30-2002, 09:09 AM

Hello again (((Momof3)

So happy to hear you are better. Life is so good and so full of wonder today in LA LA Land

My sponsor that passed away was Blaze; I use the name Blazinglory just to keep her memory alive...what a blessing she was to me and those who knew her...so full of unconditional love. She lived and breathed the program and was fortunate enough to be a part of her life.

Repsonsibilities await me so I have to make this one short!

(((hugs)))

momofthree · 12-30-2002, 12:59 PM

Grat, I'm looking forward to some more feedback. Mary, thanks, I just might take you up on the offer.

12-28-2002, 02:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
momofthree Paused Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: medford, new york Posts: 10	gotta get it off my chest I'm just gonna ramble, cause I don't want to live with things eating me up inside. I don't have a sponsor, I want one, it just seems so hard to get the ball rolling. I feel like knowbody could get the whole picture of my life cause it is so &*% complicated. I know I'm gonna seem selfish, and I guess that's my whole prob, I am not at that point in my life where everything DOESN'T revolve on how it's gonna effect me. I wish I was, I am just so consumed with my life and my issues that I can't get past that. I know thime is moving so quickly and I am wasting so much of it by not getting into the steps. I think I'm going to start my 4th even without a sponsor. I gotta get this out so I can get past it, and that's the only way. People, especially my husband and kids suffer cause my head's not right. They deserve to have a whole woman. they've had to put up with me and my childish ways for too long. I gotts to get it together. Life would not be so hard if I got a grip on who I am, how tick, what I want, my limitations, my boundaries. Everything bothers me. I want to get well. I know I can; I will.

12-28-2002, 03:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
Peacefulpie Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: toto I dont think we're in kansas anymore Posts: 354	Mom.... I don't mean to rain on your parade... however I feel that you are jumping way ahead of your self here... there is a reason we take the steps in the order they are and that we do them with a guide.... From reading this post I dont feel that you have yet worked step 1 thouroghly you may have admited powerlessness yet you have yet to see the unmanagability of it... then we proceed to step 2... we come to believe that a power greater than our selves can restore us to sanity... for most at this time a power greater is the unity of the 12 step group and working with a sponsor who guides us into step 3 so that we may make a decision to turn our will and our life over to God as we understand him.... I am sorry however I just dont feel that working a 4rth step without a sponsor and the first 3 steps is a good idea.. and will leave room for relapse in the near futur. I suggest that you go to a meeting and when they open the floor for discussion you get humble and ask someone anyone... You are not as unique as you believe your troubles are.. There are many of us who have and feel the same as you.... I also suggest that you go back and read some of our posting you will find on this forum alone that you are not alone... Remeber we did not get here over night and we will not get back over night. There is a reason the first word in our first step is WE... and there is a reason that in the Big Book of AA ever chapter starts with the word WE... it is proof that you are no longer alone that you no longer have to be alone... remeber it was your best thinking that brought you to where you are at now... Be well my friend... __________________ Take the time to live!!! Life is too short. Dance naked.!!! Alway's Den

12-28-2002, 03:59 PM	#5 (permalink)
Peacefulpie Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: toto I dont think we're in kansas anymore Posts: 354	P.S. I still hold by how I feel about a sponsor and the working of the steps... __________________ Take the time to live!!! Life is too short. Dance naked.!!! Alway's Den

12-28-2002, 04:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
Peacefulpie Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: toto I dont think we're in kansas anymore Posts: 354	hmmm if you felt that I was telling you to wait... well there is a comunication gap somewhere... Oh No my friend that is not what I meant at all. My suggestion to you is to thoroughly work step one and then to work up the steps... the way I read your post to me it sounded as if you were going straight to step 4... I still encourage you to find a woman who has worked the steps to guide you through them. __________________ Take the time to live!!! Life is too short. Dance naked.!!! Alway's Den

12-28-2002, 06:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
Peacefulpie Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: toto I dont think we're in kansas anymore Posts: 354	(((((((Mom)))))))) I dont know if you are aware of this but today you were in the position to help me.... You helped me work with another and for me wqorking with others is key to my continued sobriety... Thank you for allowing me to participate in your recovery today and for participating in mine. __________________ Take the time to live!!! Life is too short. Dance naked.!!! Alway's Den

12-28-2002, 03:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
momofthree Paused Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: medford, new york Posts: 10	thank you for your reply, I hoped to get some feedback on the subject. I don't believe I have a problem with the unmanageability part of it, and please, if you casn point out where I show that, let me be aware of it.I will admit I have had a problem with acceptance, but I truly believe I am past that. I have been around the program for over ten years, with a period of almost four years sobriety and I can recite the Big Book (not that that does me any good), but the first time it states that you must have someone in your recovery is in the fifth step. It suggests to do the third with someone understanding, but it also says it's not necessary. There is a sense of urgency with me. for aside from the four years, I cannot get any substantial time together, and I don;'t want to lose what I have right now. It also says in the Book that we can't waste any time once we are aware of the need for a fourth step. Please let me know your thoughts on this.

12-28-2002, 04:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
momofthree Paused Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: medford, new york Posts: 10	ok, that pretty much shows that my life is unmanageable, and I am aware of that, but I didn't think you were supposed to wait to do the steps until your life WAS manageable. The point of the steps is to make your life more manageable, no? To give myself a clearer picture of my life and what needs to be changed about it. How am I gonna find out if I don't do the steps? The steps help to make us less self-centered and more God-conscious. Maybe I am wrong, but I can't live in misery anymore. Why wait to better myself?

12-28-2002, 04:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
zoomer Gold Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: It's raining again! Posts: 2,495	Just have to add a little something here and it's not about a program or what not! When I had to push with my 7 year old when I was in labor, and the nurse said I was not dialated enough and the doctor was not near, I listioned to her. The nurse was also training a nurse's aid and I could actually see that the head nurse was "crazy with power"! (Pie,I'm not talkng about you, OK!). Anyway, by the time the doctor came, I all but gave up. I did not have the streghth to push because the time had passed! The doctor looked at me and said "My God,why did you not call me sooner"to the head nurse! He had them give me ice chips and told me to get mad as hell, I did and my daughter was born. Of course there were complications,she asperated and sucked in feases (her own poop) in her lungs. I did not get to hold her for hours after she was born. The thing I'm trying to point out is that if you feel the need to do a step,then do an informal one! You do not have to wait for anyone to get well! We and Me are one letter seperated from being the same. God is always with you! Zoomer

12-28-2002, 06:20 PM	#9 (permalink)
momofthree Paused Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: medford, new york Posts: 10	Thank you so much for showing an interest. I think I know what I have to do, now. I am making my program so much harder than is necessary. I don't even know what I am afraid of when it comes to getting a sponsor, or just letting people into my life. Fear of rejection, I guess. It doesn't even make sense when I have had nothing but warm conversations with other women from the program. In the meantime, I will start my 4th step. I have just been so afraid that I am not ready, when deep down, I know I need to do this, NOW. I do believe that I have a pretty strong hold on the 1st 3 steps and they won't do me any good if I don't push forward. It's nice that I truly feel this is a special forum, I just wish I wasn't so wrapped up in my own problems, because I really yearn to be in a position to help other people, especially women. I just have so many issues, I'm tired of being me. Just plain tired. Needless to say, I had a rough day, I thank God I found this site and I don't know what compelled me to come here today, but I am glad I did.

12-28-2002, 10:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
zoomer Gold Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: It's raining again! Posts: 2,495	I just have to laugh! The reason I never could convert to being a Catholic is because I just do not belive in confession! Poor priest if I ever did confess my sins! Plus, I'd be saying "hail mary's" for the rest of my life! O' I confess to god for sure an did confess some of the junk to this wonderful guy in the program many years ago. Ha, I taked about things in my childhood and he said "give yourself a break,you were just a kid"! O I do tell al, I cant keep things inside, but some stuff was ment to keep to yourself Zoomer

12-28-2002, 10:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
momofthree Paused Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: medford, new york Posts: 10	Thanks for helping me get through the day.

12-29-2002, 09:43 AM	#13 (permalink)
Paulie It is what it is!!! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sobriety Posts: 5,785	mom - I hope you are having a better day today then yesterday. I just want to toss my 4 cents in here if you don't mind. This is my own experience/opinion...doing the steps by yourself is self will, for me to get sober and stay sober I had to be in God's will. I could not do this in the beginning, in the beginning I had to just surrender. That for me meant doing what I was told from someone that came before me, a sponsor. It is fear that holds me back, and probably you also. After being blessed with 7 years clean, I lost touch with my sponsor (moved away) and got real miserable, I had to get sick and tired of being miserable enough to find a new sponsor and start the steps AGAIN...doing them with a sponsor a completely different way then with my old sponsor. My first sponsor that I had for over 6 years did them out of the Big Book, my new sponsor uses the NA workbook, complete different way of approaching the same stuff that i have stuffed, interesting huh??? Walk through the fear...and get a sponsor, start at step 1 with that sponsor. You will learn so much about yourself and your disease. You will relized unmanagibilty that you were not aware of (when you were using) and alot more. god Bless __________________ I know more about how to live than I did yesterday, but not as much as I'll know tomorrow. Today, Ill learn something new~JFT, 1/27/06 The difference between a good day and a bad day, is about 2 days~Ann of SR

12-29-2002, 11:10 AM	#14 (permalink)
Blazinglory Paused Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: La La Land, USA Posts: 33	(((HUGS))) Mom May God Bless you and thanks so much for your honesty. "An addict/alcoholic alone is in bad company" especially when working the Steps to the best of our ability. This statement is directed at myself also. My sponsor (((Blaze))) passed away almost three years ago and it seems like I cannot get past that. She was was my very best friend also and taught me about the simplicity of this beautiful program. How I loved this woman and I wanted what she had especially a working knowledge of the 12 Steps. Her words still ring in my ears today, "Until we women decide to work together, we will never get it right." (She was talking about sponsor/sponsee relationships & working the Steps together) Today, I have a sponsor online because recovery in the area is not strong also due to my work schedule I have to do what I can to work the Steps and stay clean. I would LOVE to have a f2f sponsor but in this area that's not reality. I need a sponsor with quality clean time, one that has worked the Steps, etc...I know of one woman in this area that is currently on her 4th Step and has three years clean (I cleaned up in 1983). For this addict I need someone who has "been there and done that." If I was 9 months pregnant it would be hard for me to listen to someone that's 3 months pregnant with her first child to tell me the discomfort she is in and try to tell me how to work through it...That analogy may sound a little crazy but that's how it is for me. This too is a simple program for complicated people. Very SIMPLE suggestions is what it took for me to get where I'm at today and these are: #1 Keep HP first, Go to meetings, Get a Sponsor, Work the Steps, Help others and the bottom line________WE stay clean no matter what. If I stay clean today those other minor inconveniences to those temporary problems seem so small in comparison. I look back to when I was a newcomer...I would cry myself to sleep some nights because I HAD STAYED CLEAN 24 HOURS...what a miracle, I didn't pick up!!! If I stay clean just for today....there really are NO BIG DEALS. Thanks for letting me share

12-29-2002, 06:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
momofthree Paused Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: medford, new york Posts: 10	Well, I am delighted that this has sparked such meaningful conversation and, yes, thank you, today was better, TG. I had to laugh while I was reading your post, Blaze, it must be hard to find a sponsor when you live in LA LA LAND. LOL. The best advice, all though I believe there is much, is don't pick up, no matter what. I would love to hear more about others' experiences with the 4th and 5th step if anyone would be so bold as to share about it over such a public arena. Again, thanks and God Bless.

12-29-2002, 08:08 PM	#16 (permalink)
mary558 Paused Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: new york city Posts: 6	hi mom, i read ur post and boy did i identify with u to the tee. and after 8 years of sobriety i realpased. that was a good 3 years ago, i am now back in sobriety, and just recently went into a depression without even realizing it, and get this i'm on meds. Today i made a decision to get back on track with my sponsor, she is sober over 25 years, so i guess she has alot more knowledge than me. one of the reasons i too when i first came into the program some years back i had a hard time with woman and finding a sponsor......lo and behold she found me and has stayed wiht me the last 10years, thru all my ups and downs, and her too.....i am starting on my fourth step but i have to work the first one, the unmanageability part for me was the hardes to accept in all areas of my life, today i do, and u know what mom it's not that bad anymore, then 2 step trying to do the same things over and getting the same results.........for me unmanageability, 2nd step is also lighten up dont' be so hard on yourself......3 rd step for me is the acceptance of who i am and where i am at, and know that he is always with me......my will leads me right back to unmanageability, wether it be finanacial or emotional...don't know if this makes any sense.....but just make a descion, to get a sponsor and work the steps with her...it's really not that bad......good luck, if u feel u ever need to talk let me know and i will email u my home phone no,,,,,,i am in ny city......god bless and good luck mom.... mary

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12-29-2002, 08:41 PM	#17 (permalink)
zoomer Gold Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: It's raining again! Posts: 2,495	Hey Welcome! Pauline and others will I'm sure tell you all about things, but I just wanted to say hi, and this is a great place to be! Zoomer

12-30-2002, 09:09 AM	#18 (permalink)
Blazinglory Paused Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: La La Land, USA Posts: 33	Hello again (((Momof3) So happy to hear you are better. Life is so good and so full of wonder today in LA LA Land My sponsor that passed away was Blaze; I use the name Blazinglory just to keep her memory alive...what a blessing she was to me and those who knew her...so full of unconditional love. She lived and breathed the program and was fortunate enough to be a part of her life. Repsonsibilities await me so I have to make this one short! (((hugs)))

12-30-2002, 12:59 PM	#19 (permalink)
momofthree Paused Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: medford, new york Posts: 10	Grat, I'm looking forward to some more feedback. Mary, thanks, I just might take you up on the offer.

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