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Old 07-07-2005, 10:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I am a grouch!!

The big news is: I am getting married 08-06-2005.

The grouch news is: I am not signing up for cooking and cleaning. I have been single and independent for a long time. I am accustomed to hiring out these services. The guys need to eat whether there is a woman in the picture or not, right? How many years have I said " I want a wife!"

okay, now that I have grouched that out, soon as I go back to work, I will hire this out again. And honey does like to cook. You can surmise that I do not.

It is still HOT and buggy and the clothes mold and mildew the day after I wash them. I am used to hiring out laundry too. grrrrrr.
I am re-washing everything we own for the 3d time. I have all ready said I WILL not do it again. We are storing everything in sealed containers this time. And keeping an eye on hurricane Dennis.

Honey spent yesterday shopping for a used travel trailer. Our solution for me to go back to work. Until the houseboat is complete.

Thanks, I just needed to be a grouch in a safe place. Don't want to grouch to honey, I signed up for this.

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Old 07-07-2005, 10:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Congrad's Livvy!!! Awesome! Sorry you are grouchy today, but you made me smile! Bueno!
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oh, the irony.....I had to go hang out his 3d load of t-shirts. Who needs that many t-shirts?

I swear, when my kids were 10 or 11 thereabouts, I noticed their prowess at video games and became convinced that they could operate those two mysterious white boxes with simple knobs called a washer and a dryer.

I did this gig raising kids. I have retired.

I am fairly certain that having a penis does not prevent one from being able to perform household chores.

But then, gulp, ummmm....he can install that air conditioner and I can not. On the other hand if I were working I would be in an apt where these things are part of the package.

Just laugh and let me grump, okay?
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Just so you know. It does not traumatize kids to do their own laundry. My daughter is now grown with her own family and she LIKES doing laundry. We can see that she did not get that from me.

There is another load of t-shirts, but I decided to get smart. Yeah.Do big laundry, like bedding so it will take up all the clothesline!

The computer room is inhabited by mosquitos. I got two bites with that last little vent. So I sprayed poison in the room and closed the door for 15 minutes.

The hurricane damage here is unsalvagable.

When I get really fed up...I go sit in my car, turn up the a/c and read. I got a feeling I am going to do a lot of grumping today.

He went to run errands...which means he is visiting with friend Larry for awhile. Adds to my washer woman blues.
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Old 07-07-2005, 12:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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(((Tena))) WOW married, I am so happy for you!!!!! I have seen so much growth in you since we became friends. You deserve all the happiness in the world!!!! Tell us about the ceremony, what, when, where?

Hurricane damage, this CA girl just can't comprehend something like that.

Washer woman blues.....
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One reason he is a keeper. When he returned I announced that I am busy grumping and grouching to the ladies and making a list of all the things having a penis does not prevent one from doing.
He says " I don't care if you b!tch, I b!tch." I say " I do NOT b!tch, because I am not a b!tch, I grump and grouch." The he tells me how he has just told Larry that he knows I love him because I could go off and hire all these things, but here I am. And that if weren't here, he would have to do his own laundry and that if I weren't here, somebody would be doing my laundry.
I had to smile. Most men in my life in the past would counter with a tit-for-tat of all the things they do.
One benefit of an older and wiser man who has been previously divorced. Yep, I even confessed my bedding strategy. He just smiles and says I love you.

Very simple ceremony. We bought the rings in Argentina, had them engraved and have been wearing them ever since and he has been introducing me as his wife anyway.
His mother is going on 89 and not well. We will travel to north Florida to her home, there is a lovely park like yard, his sister wants a cake and a bottle of champagne. A small celebration and acknowledgement. But, ummmmm....I lost my ring all ready, but have another ring that is special to me and I will wear it until we are better off financially, then try to find another like it to match.
I had planned to just show up at the courthouse! We spoke our vows to each other in Argentina, but I really for moral and legal reasons wanted to make it official. I am not excited. It just seems the next natural step.
Not even going to buy a dress, I all ready have 3 that would do. Is it in bad taste to wear white? I have been married once before and he has more than that in his past.
?????????
Tact goes both ways. I laid down for my siesta and he gave me a little kiss on my hiney, then asked, anybody else kiss your hiney like I do. I said, ummm I don't know, I have forgotten everybody else. He smiles and said "Good answer!"
He is off to cordon the bedroom area and a/c it. I said I will be a kept woman, kept in the bedroom!
In Cordoba, we lived in a small, basically one room suite (with room service coffee and maid service)...but anyway, that was a good litmus test. If you can live in one room together and get closer and more loving all the time, I just see the future as a building upon that. And if I can tough it out in these conditions, it shows how much I want him in my life...it could be so easy to split and have it easy, more or less. Superficially.

Y'all want to help me plan this soiree.....cool!!!!

Throw out those ideas ladies! Just remember....simple.
Y'all are my bridesmaids!

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If you can live in one room together and get closer and more loving all the time, I just see the future as a building upon that. And if I can tough it out in these conditions, it shows how much I want him in my life...it could be so easy to split and have it easy, more or less.
Live....I am smiling my friend. That is awesome and what a great attitude.

Wear white if you want...it is your wedding, big, small, extravagant,simple it does not matter it is your wedding. That is what I was being told last year at this time planning mine....it is yours do whatever you want!!!

Will be there in spirit with you. and you are getting married 3 days before my 1 year anniversary!!! August is a good month.

Oh flowers? you have to carry some kind of flowers!
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Old 07-07-2005, 03:53 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Huge congratulations Live! Its your party and you can grouch if you want to.
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Old 07-07-2005, 07:25 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Congrats on the Big News!!

I hate laundry too. I can totally relate. My husband does most of the cooking though. He's a fantastic cook. Great meals.
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I am so happy to hear your news Live and I hope you have a beautiful wedding.

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Congratulations live and D you really deseve this happiness, I am so very happy for you both.

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having a banana party for you already!
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Laundry sucks.....I usuallly wait for my husband to do it......then I feel guilty,and assist.....I am with you on the independence I was divorced for 14 years before I remarried....so i am used to not answering to anyone.....i have been married for a year...and there have been challenges...I call them growing pains.....i would never change married life because it is fun,and comforting to know someone is there....plus he cleans up the dog poop too!!! :-) Good Luck and enjoy.......
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My wedding date was 8/8/87. Congratulations. Sorry about all the hurricane mess. Was it scary?
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Love you friends!

Yesterday this plan a wedding thing started feeling like a run away train. You know, invite this person, then these others will be offended if not invited etc etc. I let myself get totally stressed. Finally I came to my senses and slashed the guest list to very tiny. Honey has the uncomfortable task of uninviting someone that I don't want there. He was just excited and made the invitation verbally. She will probably be offended, but I decided better her than me. This is my party.

Honey was here thro' last years' hurricanes. I was in Argentina. But we are preparing for Hurricane Dennis now. It is veering west, so hopefully won't lose ANOTHER roof, but do expect lots and lots of rain. Put up visqueen yesterday, will do plywood today and go get back our generator that someone borrowed.

A funny. Sis told mom about the wedding, but they agreed that since sis spilled the beans mom will act surprised like she doesn't all ready know. That's a hoot!

Oh.....there's a good chance we may be out of electricity. So I may not have internet access for a time.

Yesterday I spoke with honey's mom on the phone and told her how much I respected and admired her and that I was honored to be a part of their family...and made all of us cry. Was very sweet!

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I am so happy for you Live, I don't have the words to tell you!!! you deserve every second of happiness that you have right now.

Watch out for those hurricanes!!!! be safe.
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I am enjoying being the creator, producer and director of this wedding. When I have it put together, I will present it to you all

Indigo, In Erich Fromm's book The Art of Loving, there is a Rumi poem. I can't find it on the internet, would you happen to have access to it? I don't know if I will use it, but it sure has stuck in my head as very special for many years.

More research to do. I will have programs....Danny is an artist, so he is in charge of that. But it will include poetry not spoken in the ceremony.

love, and a good day to all!
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I enjoyed that so much too, didnt' really realize for me until it was over how much I enjoyed it LOL.

Yes please share it when you get it together. The programs sound like a special thing, great idea.
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I am very happy for you also....and will patiently
await the final production....I know it will be
grand with you in charge. Wish we could be there!

Congratulations!
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woo-woo

I emailed the program to Paulie. Don't know how to download it into here. Maybe she can or will.

But I am so excited, if need be...I will re-type it all.

Cool thing. 8 guests all standing in a circle with us and each having a participatory part in the ceremony.

Been trying to call my sis and my daughter all evening and both phone lines are busy....they are chatting. What are they up to, I wonder? Don't know if Daughter and grandson can come. Then I would happily amend the program.
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Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.
Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy, love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease, whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.
When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I am also known.
And now abide faith, hope, love, these three, but the greatest of these is love.

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The Prophet; Kahlil Gibran; On Marriage

You were born together, and together you shall be forevermore.
You shall be together when the white wings of death scatter your days.
Ay, you shall be together even in the silent memory of God.
But let there be spaces in your togetherness,
And let the winds of the heavens dance between you.

Love one another, but make not a bond of love:
Let it rather be a moving sea between the shores of your souls.
Fill each other’s cup but drink not from one cup.
Give one another of your bread but eat not from the same loaf.
Sing and dance together and be joyous, but let each one of you be alone,
Even as the strings of a lute are alone though they quiver with the same music.

Give your hearts, but not into each other’s keeping.
For only the hand of Life can contain you hearts.
And stand together yet not too near together:
For the pillars of the temple stand apart,
And the oak tree and the cypress grow not in each other’s shadow.

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Dearly beloved, we are gathered together here in the sight of God to join together this Man and this Woman in holy Matrimony; which is an honorable estate instituted of God in Paradise, and into which holy estate these two persons present come now to be joined.

Therefore if any man can show just cause, why they may not lawfully be joined together, let him speak now, or else hereafter forever hold his peace.

(to Danny):
Will you have this Woman to be thy wedded wife, to live together after God’s ordinance in the holy estate of Matrimony? Will you love her, comfort her, honour, and keep her, in sickness and in health; and forsaking all other, keep thee only unto her, so long as ye both shall live?

(I will)

(to Tena)
Will you have this man to be thy wedded husband, to live together in the holy estate of Matrimony? Will you obey him, and serve him, love, honour, and keep him in sickness and in health; and forsaking all other, keep thee only unto him, so long as ye both shall live?

(I will)

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(Danny takes Tena’s right hand)

I, Danny Poole, take thee Tena Weyer to be my wedded wife, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better or worse, for richer or poorer, for fairer or foul, in sickness and in health, to love and cherish, till death us depart.

(Tena takes Danny’s right hand)
I, Tena Weyer, take thee Danny Poole to be my wedded husband, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better or worse, for richer or poorer, in sickness and in health, to be bonny and buxom at bed and at board, to love and to cherish, till death us depart.

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Bless these Rings, that those who wear them, that give and receive may be ever faithful to one another, remain in peace, and live and grow old together in love, under their own vine, and seeing their children’s children.


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Vows

(Danny)
With this ring I thee wed, (here placing it upon her thumb) and with my best I thee honour, (here placing it on index finger) and with all my worldly goods I thee endow (here placing it on ring finger). From this day forward, you shall not walk alone. My heart will be your shelter, and my arms will be your home.

(Tena)
With this ring I thee wed (thumb) and with my best I thee honour, (index finger) and with all my love I thee endow. (ring finger) The fountains mingle with the river and the rivers with the ocean, the winds of heaven mix forever with a sweet emotion; Nothing in the world is single; all things by a law divine in one another’s being mingle. Why not I with thine? See the mountains kiss high Heaven and the waves clasp one another; No sister-flower would be forgiven if it disdained its brother, and the sunlight clasps the earth and the moonbeam kiss the sea: What are all these kissings worth if thou kiss not me?


The kiss.

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The Prayer of St Francis

Lord, make me an instrument of your peace,
Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
Where there is injury, pardon;
Where there is doubt, faith;
Where there is despair, hope;
Where there is darkness, light;
Where there is sadness, joy;

O, Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console;
To be understood as to understand;
To be loved as to love.

For it is in giving that we receive;
It is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
And it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.

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Now you will feel no rain, for each of you will be shelter for the other. Now you will feel no cold, for each of you will be warmth to the other. Now there will be no loneliness, for each of you will be companion to the other. Now you are two persons, but there is only one life before you. May beauty surround you both in the journey ahead and through all the years. May happiness be your companion and your days together be good and long upon the earth.

Treat yourselves and each other with respect, and remind yourselves often of what brought you together. Give the highest priority to the tenderness, gentleness and kindness that your union deserves. When frustration, difficulties and fear assail your relationship-as they threaten all relationships at one time or another-remember to focus on what is right between you, not only the part that seems wrong. In this way, you can ride out the storms when the clouds hide the face of the sun in your lives-remembering that even if you lose sight of it for a moment, the sun is still there. And if each of you takes responsibility for the quality of your life together, it will be marked by abundance and delight.

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Song of Solomon
Chapter seven

Danny
How beautiful are your feet in sandals, O prince’s daughter!
The curves of your thighs are like jewels, the work of the hands of a skillful workman.
Your navel is a rounded goblet; it lacks no blended beverage.
Your waist is a heap of wheat set about with lilies.
Your two breasts are like two fawns, twins of a gazelle.
Your neck is like an ivory tower,
Your eyes like the pools in Heshbon by the gate of Bath Rabbim.
Your nose is like the tower of Lebanon which looks toward Damascus.
Your head crowns you like Mount Carmel, and the hair of your head is like purple:
A king is held captive by your tresses.
How fair and pleasant you are, O love with your delights!
This stature of yours is like a palm tree. And your breasts like its clusters.
I said, “I will go up to the palm tree, I will take hold of it branches.”
Let now your breasts be like clusters of the vine,
The fragrance of your breath like apples, and the roof of your mouth like the best wine.

Tena
The wine goes down smoothly for my beloved, moving gently the lips of sleepers.
I am my beloved’s, and his desire is toward me.
Come my beloved, let us go forth to the field; let us lodge in the villages.
Let us get up early to the vineyards; let us see if the vine has budded, whether the grape blossoms are open, and the pomegranates are in bloom.
There I will give you my love.
The mandrakes give off a fragrance, and at out gates are pleasant fruits.
All manner, new and old, which I have laid up for you, my beloved.
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Thank you Paulie!!!

Just a bit of editing and it will be ready to go.
Since honey is an artist, he is going to do our portraits on the front of the program and we will fix them up nicely.

We have 8 guests, we will all stand in a circle and each person has a participatory and speaking part. Formal dress. Outside.
I think it is going to be lovely.
And yes, I am excited.

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