Wondering how to get off Suboxone/

[suboston]

hi i am also new to this site i am 30 i don't know where to start but here i go i started later then most people i know i didn't start using till i was 21 with Oxycontin i did that for about 4 years then went to the heroin after a year i started shooting H and coke for about 5 months then i got arrested i did about 12 days in jail and got clean while i was in there, when i got out i stayed clean for 3 years i cut off all my old "friends" i got a girlfriend who i am now engaged too she had never done drugs well she had her partying and experimental days like almost every other 20 year old but she never picked up a habit she hasn't touched anything since she was 21 i think half the reason why she never did is she lost her father to H when she was 10 and also lost her stepfather to the same thing a couple years ago although no one including her mother knew he was doing that but anyways heirs my problem last Christmas one of my old friends came up from Florida where he moved too to get clean he had about the same time as me clean about 3 years but he got an oxy and did it in front of me and like the addict i am the next one i asked for a little thinking one wouldn't hurt and like the ******* friend he is he said yea i know i cant blame it on him its my fault but he didn't help so i did them the whole week he was here with him thinking i could stop after he left but of course i couldn't so i did them for about 5 months also taking suboxon here and there for the past 8 or 9 months Ive been taking suboxon i haven't touched anything else also my fiancee doesn't know any of this she has real bad anxiety problems i am afraid to tell her i know it would hurt her really bad id rather wait till i am done with the subs to tell her i still have a lot of support from my aa friends who i still talk to and go to meetings with. but i am also not prescribed to subs i don't have insurance Ive had no problem finding them thou since there's so many people around here on them some days are tough and ill only have a half only a couple times i didn't have anything but i was fine physically not really mentally i normally take 1-2 8mg a day depending on how many i have sometimes i think its better i get them on the street if i had a whole script id prob take 3-4 a day but now i want to get off them completely but i am afraid of what i am going to go through i don't think ill do anything else ever even if i am hurting the so called friend came up this year again on Christmas and stayed with me and my girl and he messed up again and even offered it to me i said no and felt good about it and told him he cant stay here next time i have no desire to do anything else again i have way too much too lose now if i cant do it on my own within the next couple weeks i may have to tell my girl id much rather do it clean i guess what i am trying to find out is how bad am i going to hurt worse that before with the H or oxys and how should i start leaning down ive only been on them for about 8-9 months straight has anyone had the same situation and got through it i guess that's it for now sorry about writing so much i should have just started a thread if anyone's still reading anyways goodbye and god bless

[EightBall]

Not sure if this forum is dead or not, but just for your info you made the right decision wanting off of the suboxone. I can tell you the past two times it was pure hell for me, I mean worse than heroin detox and about the same as methadone detox in terms of pure agony/lack of sleep and duration (up to or over a month!). I definitely didn't do it right though. The first time I just up and quit coming off of over 6mg a day for over 5 months and I actually made it two weeks without one opiate!!! I am pissed that I gave in at that point because I know there was no way it would have gotten worse, and I was definitely almost to the end. I called my doctor and he put me back onto it again.. The issue for me was that I was literally losing my mind from lack of sleep. It was pure torment, torture... This time I am doing it right. I am down to about 0.5mg (quarter of a 2mg pill) and I have been weening for a good 3 or 4 months. I am so close now I can taste it. My recommendation is to ween down to literally crumbs, and get so low that you are using your finger to wipe up dust and put it under your tongue. If you can get there you are basically almost home free. The hard part comes when you get below about 1mg (at least for me) because when you go lower every few days your mind keeps thinking about needing "just a little more" to feel ok. So when you do this, you're basically trading those hellish days of torture in the end for feeling kind of bad now. Once I get to crumbs I am going to just stop. Ask your doc for the 2mg pills, the 8mg are very difficult to cut into small pieces for weening off of it. Good luck, I know that if I made it two weeks that one time off of 6mg I can definitely go completely sober off of little crumbs. Oh and one time I came off of methadone after about 4 years and detoxed in jail for 3 weeks. Made a mistake that time and went right back on it again when I got out. I'm not doing this to myself anymore. I have it planned to get off in a month or so since I am free this summer. This is my chance, I am 24 and I have a bright future. Good luck to you.

[Vidamia]

Originally Posted by juliet123

Hey I am new to the forum. I was an opiate addict for about 5 years and thank god I have found suboxone. For a long time I wanted to quit but, I just didn't want to get sick. I started on 32mg. a day and have worked my way all the way down to 2mg. You don't feel a thing on suboxone. There is no high what so ever. For those of you who are saying that it's trading one drug for another are mistaken. And please explain to me how in the world you can be addicted to something that has no feeling. I was a daily oxycontin user and suboxone helps my cravings however, there is absolutely no feeling to it at all. If anyone is saying they feel "drugged" on it or anything then it is nothing more than a placebo effect. I mean get real!!

Is there any way I can talk to this lady or email her?

[Ann]

You can post here, but we don't give out personal information here.

This is an old thread, and perhaps you could start a new thread and share a little about you, and others will respond.

[rward64]

i was on suboxone for about a year,started at 16 mills for the first 3-4 months then tapered down to 8 mill the rest the year. recently wanting to return to na ive decided to do it opiet free !my dr dosnt agree and refused to ween me off. so we have parted company. sooo the last eight weeks starting at 8 mills i dropped a 1/4 pill every ten days finnally jumped off at 2 mills seven days ago. i feel like sht cramps ,sweats , nausa ,dry heaves ect. anyone no when this will improve need to go back to work next wk, would rather go back to oxys then to ever feel this way again please help!

[Freedom1990]

Originally Posted by rward64

i was on suboxone for about a year,started at 16 mills for the first 3-4 months then tapered down to 8 mill the rest the year. recently wanting to return to na ive decided to do it opiet free !my dr dosnt agree and refused to ween me off. so we have parted company. sooo the last eight weeks starting at 8 mills i dropped a 1/4 pill every ten days finnally jumped off at 2 mills seven days ago. i feel like sht cramps ,sweats , nausa ,dry heaves ect. anyone no when this will improve need to go back to work next wk, would rather go back to oxys then to ever feel this way again please help!

I suggest you post over in our suboxone/methadone forum for some help, hon.

Suboxone/Methadone Maintenance or Detox - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information

[angelas83]

Shirlee, I know it's been a long time since you have wrote that so first i have a question are you still on the saboxon if now how did you get off it totally? I was prescribed pain medication for many years i have a really bad back and i shoulder that is dislocated i have chronic pain.. I took myself off the pain medications because i was highly addicted and didnt want to be that way.. I was buying sobe off friends i now have myself down to little less that 2 mg a day and can't seem to get further than that.. So i went to a sobe dr today asking for help on how to get off he wouldnt tell me in fact he put me up to a whole pill a day when i have worked very hard to get as low as i am and all he wants to do is take away my hard work... Do you or anyone know the answer to this there is a way but like you i have been told i am a lifer by more than 1 dr including the 1 i seen today due to chronic pain.. This is not what i want i have 3 children i want to live a normal life not get out of bed and have to wait for a med to kick in before i can have strength.. As for those of you who said sobe does not get you high well i will tell you when you are only taking the amount your body needs no it does not but if you go from a 2mg daily to an 8 yes it does get you high.. I have never taken any pills for the high and the sobe had messed me up more than anything i have ever experienced in my life so if your so sure take double the amount you do on a daily basis then get back to me on that... My husband does not have an addiction and he has tried these and he says its like being more stoned than he'd ever been and said this is what they give people to get off drugs its legal to get high.. Told the dr that told me today they dont get you high told him to try one before he states a fact that he has never done

[ninamarie1954]

My son has been on subs for two years!! he takes it twice a day now. Instead of going off, he is upping it. It makes me sick to see this guy waste 500 a month on the dr and meds. he constantly borrows money for his regular bills because of this medicine. To me, it's another addiction that has replaced his pain pills. His behavior is better, but he is now living in my house and can't afford his own place. he doesn't go out, he holes himself in his room after work and that's it. No life what so ever. When he was doing pain pills, he was never around, just to borrow or mooch from us. Now I am sad that he has no friends, no fun, just suboxone and work. What should I do? I can't stand it. he is missing his youth..and is almost 29!! We want him to go to rehab and detox for it..and he won't. Yes, he has gone to rehab twice. We can't afford the upscale one's like Dr. Phil!!!

[Jason1984]

I know what you mean about suboxone and what it does to your life. I am 27 years old and just got off pain pills 3 months ago and onto suboxone because my withdrawls were to bad. At first the suboxone helped alot and I had energy and was happy. But in the end it is just another drug...I also pay 600 dollars a month and have to live at home because of that and my life has taken a turn for the worst. i do not go out anymore and am very somber as when i was on pills I partied and enjoyed my life. I am prescribed 2 suboxones a day but only take 1. It has come to the point where I now need 2 to feel normal and happy and I want to take myself off but fear relapse or getting sick. It sucks we are so tyoung but our brains are affected so much by these drugs. I just want to go out and have fun again but money prohibits me from doing so as I am only happy when i have some money to spend and as long as I am on suboxone that will not be possible. I hope things get better with your son. My names jason you can email me if you have any questions....When you have money and friends you kinda forget about the suboxone and maybe go drink and have fun till it is all out of your system. But to get to that point you need the money first....then the rest can be possible.

[Sickofopiates]

Originally Posted by joyhawk

I know that no one has posted here in a long time, but I just came across this thread with questions about getting off Suboxone and thought I'ld throw in my 2 cents worth.

I took the drug following a 10-year addiction to pain killers, and over the course of 5 months, my doctor weaned me down to 1/2 pill (8mg/2mg) a day. That lasted for 2 months, then one month of 1/2 pill every other day, and then I was done.

Other then some mild discomfort the first few days (ibuprofen took care of that), I was fine.

Hope this helps and I hope you're on the road to recovery by now.
Joyhawk

I am so glad to hear you say that I wasn't that bad to get off the suboxone. I been on them for a month and a half and scared to quit. I used to be on methadone and like my life much better without it. Suboxone changed my life and after reading what you wrote, I see a light at the end of the tunnel. Thank you

[sugarbear1]

try the na/suboxone threads on the main page of forums above this forum.

best wishes on your recovery!

[Ace88]

Originally Posted by juliet123

Hey I am new to the forum. I was an opiate addict for about 5 years and thank god I have found suboxone. For a long time I wanted to quit but, I just didn't want to get sick. I started on 32mg. a day and have worked my way all the way down to 2mg. You don't feel a thing on suboxone. There is no high what so ever. For those of you who are saying that it's trading one drug for another are mistaken. And please explain to me how in the world you can be addicted to something that has no feeling. I was a daily oxycontin user and suboxone helps my cravings however, there is absolutely no feeling to it at all. If anyone is saying they feel "drugged" on it or anything then it is nothing more than a placebo effect. I mean get real!!

People don't say its trading one drug for another because of the high. They say that because of the withdrawl symptoms. I was addicted to opiates for 4 years and finally got on the subs, I thought they were like a miracle... I felt normal for the first time in years. Normal- not high. I was like - Why did I wait sooo long for this.?? I have been on them for over a year now-- The ******* withdrawls from subs are WORSE then percs or oxys. and they last longer. I wish I had never stasrted the subs. I weened myself from 2 8mg subs a day to 2mg a day and I thought I would be good- easy as cake right only 2mg?? NO WAY. I work full time and have 2 kids. I can't do anything. I feel like I'm dying. so ultimately.. I traded one drug that got me high but had bad withdrawls, to another drug that doesn't even get me high, and has worse withdrawls.

[Ace88]

This is all good and nice - makes you feel like you've won after coming off opiates - until you try to get off the subs. Its worse than the opiate withdrawl. for some reason (wonder why, because they just care about controlling you substance abuse problem, not fixing it) So really you, and myself, ultimately subsituted one drug, which gets you high, but has bad withdrawls - for another, that doesnt get you high but has worse withdrawls. I've been on subs for over a year- I went from 2- 8mg subs a day, to 1 - 2mg a day--- I cannot sleep function move nothing after 3 days with out that 2mgs of subs. If my dr had told me the truth about sub withdrawls I NEVER would have started them.

[baw396]

Originally Posted by rward64

i was on suboxone for about a year,started at 16 mills for the first 3-4 months then tapered down to 8 mill the rest the year. recently wanting to return to na ive decided to do it opiet free !my dr dosnt agree and refused to ween me off. so we have parted company. sooo the last eight weeks starting at 8 mills i dropped a 1/4 pill every ten days finnally jumped off at 2 mills seven days ago. i feel like sht cramps ,sweats , nausa ,dry heaves ect. anyone no when this will improve need to go back to work next wk, would rather go back to oxys then to ever feel this way again please help!

just signed in to this site. how have you been doing. Im trying to ween off, in the mean time have no energy whatsoever

[sugarbear1]

Welcome to SR, baw!