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Wii · 01-27-2007, 11:20 AM

I have cried alot in the past few days here dealing with something that is breaking my heart. Before the tears started to flow I was actually feeling sick and tense and Very Pessimistic about the situation. Today I feel lighter and more positive. Looking at Possible outcomes and telling myself the Worst Could happen but somehow I'll get through it, I have gone through it before. I don't think it matters exactly WHAT my issues are with this it matters how I am coping with it. I need to stop beating myself up and telling myself I am inadequate in handling this, which I AM but it's just due to lack of training, I am doing the best I can here and it's best I don't have other people around me right now, I am Very vulnerable and sensitive right now. Someone wandered across my path yesterday and he took off out of here upset too so it's best I stay alone in this.

Anyway, my topic is "CRYING". Sorry I went off on a tangent there for a bit. It helped me so much yesterday. I just was crying all over the place. I slept a little better last night and felt better this morning. Don't be afraid to cry.

***Anna*** · 01-27-2007, 11:54 AM

Crying can be a great release and a source of therapy for yourself.

I hope you are feeling better now.

hope3 · 01-27-2007, 12:16 PM

Oh hi wii, its a proven fact that crying makes us feel alittle better.

I don't remember exactly how, but it has something to do with letting go.

Hope everyday gets alittle better. Hugs Hope3.

indigo · 01-28-2007, 04:01 AM

Yes I kept my tears to myself throughout my childhood, once I understood that crying is meant for a reason I opened my floodgates and now I can cry almost as much as I laugh. Either ways it's great therapy.

indigo

Wii · 01-28-2007, 10:06 AM

Well, the situation I am dealing with is still here. I have NO idea how it's going to turn out. At the worst I will lose one of my cherished, beautiful female iguanas to a slow and agonizing death. The best is she pulls through this and is able to poop normally. What I have to do first thing in the morning, as BAD as it is for me to have to do it's 1000 times worse for her but I can't let her drag her insides around all over the floor and risk infection and necrosis. I am not a VET and I can't afford the $3000. she wants to fix this. I do think that is outrageous. I think I may look into Pet Insurance soon. I just don't want her to suffer, it's tears at my heart. But if she was out in the wild in this condition she would have died within a few days I'm sure.

OH yes, back to crying. I do feel better since I let it all out. I actually feel stronger, isn't that funny??? I'm sure by the end of the day I'll be crying again.

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/science/mind/s823575.htm

hope3 · 01-28-2007, 10:35 AM

Hi Wii, I certainly hope your Iguana makes it, if I was her I would be glad you were my mom.

so sad about the vet cost.......I think in most cases pet Ins. pays around 1/2.

Good luck Wii and cry all you need, its good for us.......Thanks for the link...Hope3.

Wii · 01-28-2007, 02:24 PM

You know hope, I sit here and feel terrible about what she's going through and what I have to do to help her. I am not a surgeon or a vet, I'm just an animal lover who will put herself OUT to help ANY creature that needs help. I do the best I can with what I know about the phisiology of the lizard but I figure some intervention is better than none, right? I see her laying there, obviously in pain. I wish I had something to calm her down or knock her out. She just keeps doing things that aggravate the situation. The only way I can stop her is to lay down on my bed with her wrapped in a CLEAN baby blanket and talk to her and rub her head and back but then she get warm and relaxed and tries pushing again and out everything comes again then I have to do what I dread, slide it back up inside her and cover her vent with a bandaid. Of course it's not that quick, I have to scrub my hands, get a spray bottle with hot water, get the Neosporin and bandaids close, wrestle with her, get her positioned on her back, cover her entirely with blankets and towels THEN do it, VERY SLOWLY and stopping frequently when she starts showing distress, then I have to talk and pet and calm her down then procede until it's back in. I do spray it and cover it with Neosporin whenever I have to do this, the Vet told me to keep it moist.

See, and I don't know when I have to do this again. It's like she's giving birth. I hate this and how I feel right now. I wish I was asleep.

indigo · 01-29-2007, 04:25 AM

It's horrible watching our beloved animals in pain, I do hope that she makes it and make a full recovery.

indigo

Wii · 01-30-2007, 09:15 AM

Well, things aren't looking too good. I have accepted the fact that she is going to die. I will just try to keep her comfortable as I can and comfort her. I prayed it would be quick but with this type of thing it'll probably take a while, I HATE THIS!!!!

indigo · 01-30-2007, 10:46 AM

That sucks.

indie

hope3 · 01-30-2007, 02:53 PM

Oh, I'm so sorry to hear how your iguanna is doing, isn't there any humane society or vet that would do it pro bono......You probably already tried, I just feel so helpless for you.

You guys are in my thoughts and prayers, Hugs, Hope3.

***Anna*** · 01-30-2007, 02:59 PM

I am sorry Wii. It is always so hard to lose a beloved pet.

Wii · 01-30-2007, 04:18 PM

You MUST be kidding. A Doctor do something for ME for Nothing?? I Don't Think So. If there is I sure will never find him or her.

Things are steadily going downhill. I am force feeding her a little, water, OJ, Greens in the blender but she really still doesn't want to eat, it's been 8 days. She IS dying. I still have to push everything back up inside her a few times a day. When it comes out she is obviously in pain and after I do it she can at least lay down and sleep after I cover her vent with a bandaid. This is Terrible and it Sucks!! I feel defeated. I wish God would just take her instead of making it linger. I Know she is suffering.

hope3 · 01-30-2007, 04:21 PM

I'm so sorry Wii, you are in my thoughts...

Wii · 01-30-2007, 04:28 PM

With all the Prayers and encouragement I got when I quit smoking I can't believe that it won't work to help my little girl. I certainly am praying for her. and I know alot of you are including her in your prayers too and I thank you.

Wii · 02-01-2007, 10:09 AM

Well, I guess God decided it was time to end her suffering. She died this morning. I am going to go lay down and hold her until I can let go.

gypsytears · 02-01-2007, 01:49 PM

I'm so sorry for your loss Wii. Hold on until you can't any longer and then hold on some more. Yes... crying helps. Each tear shed makes us stronger I believe.

Wii · 02-01-2007, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wii

Well, I guess God decided it was time to end her suffering. She died this morning. I am going to go lay down and hold her until I can let go.

Well, I have to tell you, this IS wierd. I layed down with her for about 4 hours and suddenly she woke up and ran to the top of the bed. Honestly, I thought she was gone. Maybe it was some sort of Dormant Mode or something. I just don't know. But she isn't dead, she just zoned out for a while somehow. Iguanas do that sometimes as sort of a Survival Mode.

Today has been quite the roller coaster ride as far as emotions go. It appears that the duct tape held everything in overnight and even by this afternoon when I rolled her over to change her bandages everything was still inside her. There was a little bulging but nothing was outside. I gave her sometime in the warm tub without a bandage so she could pee and poo, rehydrate and get cleaned off then I rebandaged her, gave her some juice, liquid greens and Rolaids with an eyedropper and put her to bed for the night. She SEEMED to feel a little better tonight. I so pray that things are going to turn around now. This poor little thing has suffered SO much. I really don't want to lose her. It's funny. A friend from church suggested I use duct tape to secure everything. I laughed when she said it but used correctly it is securing everything much better. Do you think God had a hand in that?? The small pieces of duct tape go OVER the adhesive parts of the bandaids, NOT on her vent.

scaredykat · 02-01-2007, 10:28 PM

Hi Wii, I'm so sorry for what you've been going through. I hope things work out somehow. I am also an animal lover and lost 2 guinea pigs last fall. They were brothers and it was heart breaking when they died 1 month apart. In my signature is my youngest cat Lois when she was a baby. Here's a link to exotic pets that have a lot of good information for almost all animals except cats and dogs. They have there own link. There's also a forum that has links on lizards, mice, rabbits, you name it. Good luck. Barb

http://exoticpets.about.com/

getn2gether · 02-05-2007, 09:33 AM

I guess I am scared if I start crying I may never stop..... and the worst thing I guess not knowing what I am really crying about... maybe about everything. I am struggling with trying to get into recovery, and my husband walking out... but I keep telling myself God is answering my prayers.. I just need to listen.

Im glad you feel better today. Like Scarlett O'hara said "Oh I will think about that tomorrow"!

Kimberly

Wii · 02-07-2007, 08:54 PM

OK, I waited a few days to be sure. She IS gone. Sunday afternoon. I left her til Monday to be sure. I bagged her up Lovingly wrapped in her favorite baby blanket and then Triple wrapped her in trash bags. I put her in my car where it has been sub zero weather and she is frozen solid now. I will put her little body in the lake when it thaws.

I am so looking forward now to the hatching of some baby iguanas in a few months. I certainly will name one after her and my little boy who died 2 months ago. His body was in my freezer.

scaredykat · 02-08-2007, 02:48 PM

I'm so sorry for your loss. It's so sad when you loss a animal you love. I didn't know you had babies coming. That's really exciting.

Kimm992 · 02-09-2007, 01:02 PM

I'm not sure exactly what the problem was but from the sounds of it your iguana had a rectal proloapse...is that it?

Sorry for your loss....

Wii · 02-09-2007, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimm992

I'm not sure exactly what the problem was but from the sounds of it your iguana had a rectal proloapse...is that it?

Sorry for your loss....

An iguana has what is called a "vent". The medical term is "cloaca". It's the ONE opening at the base of their tail where Everything comes out of. Not a very Specialized species, not like we Humans. We have an exit for 3 separate things, we females do anyway, you males only have 2. The cloaca in the iguana is like a collecting pouch for feces and urine. They collect there and when it's full they just sort of explode. This is what kept coming out, the inverted pouch. I'm afraid once I got it back in it may not have righted itself and her poo and pee was mingling in around her other organs and contaminated her. She did smell Very bad at the end.

And yes, we ARE expecting some babies Mid April to Mid May, I Hope, I Hope, I HOPE!!!

Wouldn't that be Loverly??

hope3 · 02-09-2007, 07:01 PM

Hi Wii, sorry shes gone, but at least theres the babies.

Hope all goes well with them......hugs, hope3

01-27-2007, 11:20 AM	#1 (permalink)
Wii A SeaBird Living LandLocked Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Smack Dab Right in the Middle of the U.S.A. Posts: 238	~ CRYING Certainly Helps! ~ I have cried alot in the past few days here dealing with something that is breaking my heart. Before the tears started to flow I was actually feeling sick and tense and Very Pessimistic about the situation. Today I feel lighter and more positive. Looking at Possible outcomes and telling myself the Worst Could happen but somehow I'll get through it, I have gone through it before. I don't think it matters exactly WHAT my issues are with this it matters how I am coping with it. I need to stop beating myself up and telling myself I am inadequate in handling this, which I AM but it's just due to lack of training, I am doing the best I can here and it's best I don't have other people around me right now, I am Very vulnerable and sensitive right now. Someone wandered across my path yesterday and he took off out of here upset too so it's best I stay alone in this. Anyway, my topic is "CRYING". Sorry I went off on a tangent there for a bit. It helped me so much yesterday. I just was crying all over the place. I slept a little better last night and felt better this morning. Don't be afraid to cry.

01-27-2007, 11:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
*Anna* Administrator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dancing in the Light Posts: 22,846	Crying can be a great release and a source of therapy for yourself. I hope you are feeling better now. __________________ And I dont know what the future is holding in store I dont know where Im going, Im not sure where I've been There's a spirit that guides me, a light that shines for me My life is worth the living, I dont need to see the end. John Denver

01-27-2007, 12:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
hope3 Hope3 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 2,146	Oh hi wii, its a proven fact that crying makes us feel alittle better. I don't remember exactly how, but it has something to do with letting go. Hope everyday gets alittle better. Hugs Hope3. __________________ If I focus on the solutions, the problems won't seem impossible!

01-28-2007, 04:01 AM	#4 (permalink)
indigo Community Greeter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Mid-Life Express Posts: 9,928	Yes I kept my tears to myself throughout my childhood, once I understood that crying is meant for a reason I opened my floodgates and now I can cry almost as much as I laugh. Either ways it's great therapy. indigo __________________ When you judge others, you do not define them, you define yourself." Namasté

01-28-2007, 10:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
hope3 Hope3 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 2,146	Hi Wii, I certainly hope your Iguana makes it, if I was her I would be glad you were my mom. so sad about the vet cost.......I think in most cases pet Ins. pays around 1/2. Good luck Wii and cry all you need, its good for us.......Thanks for the link...Hope3. __________________ If I focus on the solutions, the problems won't seem impossible!

01-28-2007, 10:06 AM	#5 (permalink)
Wii A SeaBird Living LandLocked Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Smack Dab Right in the Middle of the U.S.A. Posts: 238	Well, the situation I am dealing with is still here. I have NO idea how it's going to turn out. At the worst I will lose one of my cherished, beautiful female iguanas to a slow and agonizing death. The best is she pulls through this and is able to poop normally. What I have to do first thing in the morning, as BAD as it is for me to have to do it's 1000 times worse for her but I can't let her drag her insides around all over the floor and risk infection and necrosis. I am not a VET and I can't afford the $3000. she wants to fix this. I do think that is outrageous. I think I may look into Pet Insurance soon. I just don't want her to suffer, it's tears at my heart. But if she was out in the wild in this condition she would have died within a few days I'm sure. OH yes, back to crying. I do feel better since I let it all out. I actually feel stronger, isn't that funny??? I'm sure by the end of the day I'll be crying again. http://www.abc.net.au/rn/science/mind/s823575.htm

01-28-2007, 02:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
Wii A SeaBird Living LandLocked Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Smack Dab Right in the Middle of the U.S.A. Posts: 238	You know hope, I sit here and feel terrible about what she's going through and what I have to do to help her. I am not a surgeon or a vet, I'm just an animal lover who will put herself OUT to help ANY creature that needs help. I do the best I can with what I know about the phisiology of the lizard but I figure some intervention is better than none, right? I see her laying there, obviously in pain. I wish I had something to calm her down or knock her out. She just keeps doing things that aggravate the situation. The only way I can stop her is to lay down on my bed with her wrapped in a CLEAN baby blanket and talk to her and rub her head and back but then she get warm and relaxed and tries pushing again and out everything comes again then I have to do what I dread, slide it back up inside her and cover her vent with a bandaid. Of course it's not that quick, I have to scrub my hands, get a spray bottle with hot water, get the Neosporin and bandaids close, wrestle with her, get her positioned on her back, cover her entirely with blankets and towels THEN do it, VERY SLOWLY and stopping frequently when she starts showing distress, then I have to talk and pet and calm her down then procede until it's back in. I do spray it and cover it with Neosporin whenever I have to do this, the Vet told me to keep it moist. See, and I don't know when I have to do this again. It's like she's giving birth. I hate this and how I feel right now. I wish I was asleep.

01-29-2007, 04:25 AM	#8 (permalink)
indigo Community Greeter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Mid-Life Express Posts: 9,928	It's horrible watching our beloved animals in pain, I do hope that she makes it and make a full recovery. indigo __________________ When you judge others, you do not define them, you define yourself." Namasté

01-30-2007, 09:15 AM	#9 (permalink)
Wii A SeaBird Living LandLocked Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Smack Dab Right in the Middle of the U.S.A. Posts: 238	Well, things aren't looking too good. I have accepted the fact that she is going to die. I will just try to keep her comfortable as I can and comfort her. I prayed it would be quick but with this type of thing it'll probably take a while, I HATE THIS!!!!

01-30-2007, 10:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
indigo Community Greeter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Mid-Life Express Posts: 9,928	That sucks. indie __________________ When you judge others, you do not define them, you define yourself." Namasté

01-30-2007, 02:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
hope3 Hope3 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 2,146	Oh, I'm so sorry to hear how your iguanna is doing, isn't there any humane society or vet that would do it pro bono......You probably already tried, I just feel so helpless for you. You guys are in my thoughts and prayers, Hugs, Hope3. __________________ If I focus on the solutions, the problems won't seem impossible!

01-30-2007, 02:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
*Anna* Administrator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dancing in the Light Posts: 22,846	I am sorry Wii. It is always so hard to lose a beloved pet. __________________ And I dont know what the future is holding in store I dont know where Im going, Im not sure where I've been There's a spirit that guides me, a light that shines for me My life is worth the living, I dont need to see the end. John Denver

01-30-2007, 04:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
Wii A SeaBird Living LandLocked Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Smack Dab Right in the Middle of the U.S.A. Posts: 238	You MUST be kidding. A Doctor do something for ME for Nothing?? I Don't Think So. If there is I sure will never find him or her. Things are steadily going downhill. I am force feeding her a little, water, OJ, Greens in the blender but she really still doesn't want to eat, it's been 8 days. She IS dying. I still have to push everything back up inside her a few times a day. When it comes out she is obviously in pain and after I do it she can at least lay down and sleep after I cover her vent with a bandaid. This is Terrible and it Sucks!! I feel defeated. I wish God would just take her instead of making it linger. I Know she is suffering.

01-30-2007, 04:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
hope3 Hope3 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 2,146	I'm so sorry Wii, you are in my thoughts... __________________ If I focus on the solutions, the problems won't seem impossible!

01-30-2007, 04:28 PM	#15 (permalink)
Wii A SeaBird Living LandLocked Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Smack Dab Right in the Middle of the U.S.A. Posts: 238	With all the Prayers and encouragement I got when I quit smoking I can't believe that it won't work to help my little girl. I certainly am praying for her. and I know alot of you are including her in your prayers too and I thank you.

02-01-2007, 10:09 AM	#16 (permalink)
Wii A SeaBird Living LandLocked Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Smack Dab Right in the Middle of the U.S.A. Posts: 238	Well, I guess God decided it was time to end her suffering. She died this morning. I am going to go lay down and hold her until I can let go.

02-01-2007, 01:49 PM	#17 (permalink)
gypsytears not a greeter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: padmasana Posts: 12,538 Blog Entries: 2	I'm so sorry for your loss Wii. Hold on until you can't any longer and then hold on some more. Yes... crying helps. Each tear shed makes us stronger I believe.

02-01-2007, 10:28 PM	#19 (permalink)
scaredykat Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Upstate, N.Y. Posts: 4,593 Blog Entries: 7	Hi Wii, I'm so sorry for what you've been going through. I hope things work out somehow. I am also an animal lover and lost 2 guinea pigs last fall. They were brothers and it was heart breaking when they died 1 month apart. In my signature is my youngest cat Lois when she was a baby. Here's a link to exotic pets that have a lot of good information for almost all animals except cats and dogs. They have there own link. There's also a forum that has links on lizards, mice, rabbits, you name it. Good luck. Barb http://exoticpets.about.com/ __________________ * BB quotes cited from the 1st Ed.* One Day at a Time Sobriety Date: Jan 19, 2008

02-05-2007, 09:33 AM	#20 (permalink)
getn2gether Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Slidell, LA Posts: 33	I guess I am scared if I start crying I may never stop..... and the worst thing I guess not knowing what I am really crying about... maybe about everything. I am struggling with trying to get into recovery, and my husband walking out... but I keep telling myself God is answering my prayers.. I just need to listen. Im glad you feel better today. Like Scarlett O'hara said "Oh I will think about that tomorrow"! Kimberly

02-07-2007, 08:54 PM	#21 (permalink)
Wii A SeaBird Living LandLocked Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Smack Dab Right in the Middle of the U.S.A. Posts: 238	OK, I waited a few days to be sure. She IS gone. Sunday afternoon. I left her til Monday to be sure. I bagged her up Lovingly wrapped in her favorite baby blanket and then Triple wrapped her in trash bags. I put her in my car where it has been sub zero weather and she is frozen solid now. I will put her little body in the lake when it thaws. I am so looking forward now to the hatching of some baby iguanas in a few months. I certainly will name one after her and my little boy who died 2 months ago. His body was in my freezer.

02-08-2007, 02:48 PM	#22 (permalink)
scaredykat Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Upstate, N.Y. Posts: 4,593 Blog Entries: 7	I'm so sorry for your loss. It's so sad when you loss a animal you love. I didn't know you had babies coming. That's really exciting. __________________ * BB quotes cited from the 1st Ed.* One Day at a Time Sobriety Date: Jan 19, 2008

02-09-2007, 01:02 PM	#23 (permalink)
Kimm992 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 88	I'm not sure exactly what the problem was but from the sounds of it your iguana had a rectal proloapse...is that it? Sorry for your loss.... __________________ ~Kimmy~

02-09-2007, 07:01 PM	#25 (permalink)
hope3 Hope3 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 2,146	Hi Wii, sorry shes gone, but at least theres the babies. Hope all goes well with them......hugs, hope3 __________________ If I focus on the solutions, the problems won't seem impossible!

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