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bonesy · 02-25-2006, 08:48 AM

I am doing well, thanks! Yesterday was Day #1 of one pill! I know its nuts how i'm drawing this out, but its working for me. I have plenty to cover my taper, plus plus. So i am working on the guts to throw them out, even if its 10 a day. Phew, thats a hard one. HOw are you doing????

woops · 02-25-2006, 10:53 AM

Thanks guys............
Yep - one day at a time!
I have decided to slow it all down - this fast taper is killing me - I simply cannot deal with the withdrawals and living....... and am setting myself up to fail. So - decided to slow down - take it easy - reduce by much less every 3/4 days - and even then I will be free of these awful drugs in a matter of a few weeks. I already feel great for having made this decision and am sitting here almost symptom free for not cutting down - will stay at this level for a couple of days and then resume on down........................................I feel comfortable now about all this!
Cheers to you all for encouragement - and well done to those brave souls who have won!!!!!

bonesy · 02-26-2006, 09:52 AM

Woops
I just talked to my friend who is "talking me thought the taper". Her doc had her drop .5 mg and stay there for at least 7 days. Maybe you could try that. How are you feeling?
Free, still going strong?
Bonesy

golf99 · 02-26-2006, 10:13 AM

Woops,

I have tried tapering in the past, it always ended in failure. Whenever I had an issue that I seemed large I'd pop pills. When I really wanted to quit, tapering was not even an option. I felt if I had the sh#t in my house I wasn't true to recovery. I always thought tapering of pills was like being an alcoholic and weaning from 12 beers a day for a week to 11 beers..and so on.

It does take MASSIVE will-power to quit this poison, when you are ready you will know.

I do admire your hard work in the 'taper' method, you will find the right plan for you.

Best,
Golf

free2see · 02-26-2006, 09:05 PM

12 DAYS free

Recover-thanks- camping went great. Congrat's on the script and your move to get through this WITH your wife-that's great.

Bonesy- I'm doing ok. I have a lot of energy which for the most part is good.(except when it turns to anxiety!)-congrat's on your taper- almost there!!

The taper worked for me. It's was hard mentally but I now feel I have much more control over the drug.

free2see · 02-27-2006, 02:01 PM

13 days

free2see · 02-27-2006, 02:02 PM

Bonesy? Woops? Recover? Lady? Agent? How are you all doing?

golf99 · 02-27-2006, 02:29 PM

Great job on 13 days!!!!!!

bonesy · 02-28-2006, 09:23 AM

Free, Woops, Golf, and fellow strugglers
Am holding the course. I'm on day 5 of one pill, with specific plans for the upcoming cuts.I've been talking to my friend who has helped me a lot with the taper; she's been super encouraging. We're discussing plans to dispense with my stash. God, i can't believe it, but i think i will actually do it.Since she is the only one in my life (except you all) who knows of my demons, i have noone to "hold" them for me. She is an addict too, so that is not an option. I'm still nonchalantly dropping one or two in the sink, but i've got to deal with the whole stash. I have two stressful trips coming up and i've given myself permission to hold steady til i return in two weeks til i do the next drop. Otherwise i'm afraid i'll screw up. So then my friend will sit with me while i call the online doc and tell him/her to NOT give me my last two refills. And gulp, say adios to the bottles. The more I say it the better it is. It hleps me a lot to read whats going on with everyone. Free, Golf, you guys are doing great. Woops, hows it going??
Bonesy

Buzz Kilowatt · 02-28-2006, 09:44 AM

I chose the taper method as a way to try to reduce the severity of the discomfort when I quit cold turkey. I did taper down to a "jumping off" pint but I was "only doing" (2) 7.5 HC pills/day. For those folks that have larger pill intakes I'd recommend the taper method, and do it slowly so your body adjusts to it.

Although I haven't slipped in 58 days, I have to wonder why I still keep that one refill around. Not trusting myself 100%, I put it in a locked gun vault. It's just as deadly as the lead stuff also in there.

I guess we spend so much time making sure that we don't run out of the stuff that procuring it has become a habit or fetish in itself. The addict mind thinks, "well, what if I injure myself or am in real pain" when the fact is that a couple of Advil work as well, if not better for pain, than these HC do for me now!

Obviously, the monkey won't be off my back until I muster the courage and conviction to get these out of my house forever. If I break a leg or whatever, I'll just have to worry about it then.

Anyone else have a strange compulsion to hang onto their junk, "just in case??"

Buzz

free2see · 02-28-2006, 10:24 AM

14 days

It is totally natural to hide and stash. Your mind is in survival mode. Cutting the cord with my doctor was the hardest thing. It's like taking a step foreward while blindfolded.

Bonesy- you are doing great!! Take each small victory to heart.

sheat · 02-28-2006, 10:50 AM

Hi Free - woops
I'm glad to hear you all are ok. Free its wonderful to hear your Free CONGRATS

Woops It sounds like you are doing better, A slower taper is probably better,are you working or stay at home mom? Either one is a job working or staying home with kids!! I still havent started my taper yet, I'm scared My Dr. upped my dose for a week,now i have to get back down to what i was taking

I'm going to do a slow taper 2mgs every two weeks! Thats what my Dr. wants to do. Good Luck

Agent I think it was?? I'm on16 mgs of suboxone and I've been on it for 2 years. I went to a treatment center for help and they put me on a pain pill with an opiate receptor in it and sent me home,so i quit taking them and went in full blown w/d. It was bullshyt. I have 2 kids and i'm a single mom with no help, so my dr. put me back on sub,and here i'am still on it, my family thinks i been off it for a year now. My husband died from methadone and vics mixed substance overdose, thats what straightened me up-real quick!! So how did you taper from suboxone???

Glad all of you are doing good,I hope i will be where you all are soon.
I want to c/t it but i dont think i can with the kids, and tapering is really hard for me!! God Bless You All!!!

GOOD LUCK TO ALL

SHEA

sandluvr · 02-28-2006, 11:27 AM

Buzz,
How are you Doing, Ihave slowed my taper down, it was a bit to tough, I felt like a bit of a failure. But after reading all of these threads I realize its probably better for me. I gain so much from all of you, to know that I am not the only one trying to get these DEMONS out of my life. I pray for myself and for all of you everyday,. Keep up the good work. Hopefully soon we'll all be happier, and healthier

God Bless
Sandluvr

bonesy · 02-28-2006, 11:47 AM

Buzz
Am totally grappling with that same issue. I take heart from your story and feel inspired by your 50+ pill free days.
Free, again thanks. I will keep plodding along. How are you feeling????

**Alera** · 02-28-2006, 12:19 PM

I had to slower my taper down, and I felt horrible. It was pointed out to me that this was my big chance at recovery, and if I wanted to get clean I should do it right. If that meant slowing down my taper, then so be it. It was my once good shot before I lost everything. So it was worth slowing down a little.

woops · 03-01-2006, 05:22 PM

Hey Mr Free

Just look how far you have come..............................

free2see · 03-01-2006, 05:53 PM

woops-We're all making our way foreward!!

15 days

agent alias · 03-02-2006, 02:31 PM

HI all! I'm so sorry that I've been away but I had the deadly flu. Daily fevers for 8 days. I was dying. worse than WDs. I think. At least with WDs. You know its over within a certain amount of time then its over, but with this flu , it seemed endless. However, I'm feeling much better but not all there still. Here at work. So busy though at work. Busy posting here! Ha!

Free2see- AWESOME DUDE!!!@! amazing! How are you feeling? Obviously great! Great job!

Woops and Bonsey- Your tapering sounds geat. I cannot taper whatsoever. I'm a loser , weakling.

Sheat - (((((hugs))))) to you...I totally understand about that crap. Tapering is hard on Sub. But you're gonna have to. I am also a single mom with a daughter. I am not going to sugarcoat the WDs because they're deadly.

However, I believe if you taper at a very slow pace, you can do it. You are on SUBOXONE instead of SUBUTEX? Can you switch over to Subutex instead? I believe it is easier to taper off that than Suboxone. You will have to a very slow taper which will take months. By dropping .25mg on a weekly basis. I was chipping off the 2mg tablet and I will actually feel relief licking powdered chips from the tablet. I wasn't working though at that time but just going to the University. I even went to classes with WDs but you're just working at such a slow pace. Everything was painful physically and phsycological as well. You will need help at times especially towards the end of the taper. Any other family members can help you, hun?

BUT, for myself, I figured that I would also use about #30 hydros to taper off the Sub because hydros are short acting (4-8 hours) versuses the Sub which is way long acting (12-24 hours) . I never went back to the hydros because I just wanted off that rollercoaster so bad (use to be 35+ a day pill addict). If you do it my way, I would throw in some Immodium AD in between the hydros to help. We can also request the help of Philster2003 to help with tapering. He has a great tapering schedule and he was at 50+ a day of hydros.

I can help you with that at another time. I will make your very own thread to help you out if need to be. OK? NO worries and YOU WILL DO THIS. How are you feeling on the Sub now though? Why do you want to come off it?

This post is become too lengthy! Sorry for the all of the rambling!!!

YOU GUYS ARE DOING GREAT! Here's the hula dance for you all. ALOHA!!!!

Because after you guys are done...That's what you feel like....looking at beautiful sunset on an Hawaiin beach...aaaahhhhh. Absolutely fab! So ALOHA all!

Lady_Blue · 03-05-2006, 04:36 PM

Hey EVERYBODY!! I; too, have been MIA for awhile, been FELLING very crappy, but otherwise, I'm so HAPPY to say that I AM ALIVE and VERY WELL...(Thank You!) I'm VERY VERY close to being completely FREE of my "demon" (hydro's) as well, it feels so good! Now I know what ppl mean when I've read posts about "the fog lifting." My GOD! It's so awesome!!

woops · 03-06-2006, 03:06 AM

Good to hear you sounding "chipper" Lady Blue.................
Not me - I am feeling rotten!! OK - just being honest. Just plugging away here - just trying to get ever lower with the codeine...................... but I am getting pretty sick of the whole situation. But - what choice do I have?
Good to hear you are over the flu, Agent................
So - we just have to line up behind Free and get flying?
My wee brain just feels frantic!!! No calm or peace here yet! And as for the fog clearing.....................................

02-25-2006, 08:48 AM	#126 (permalink)
bonesy Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oakland , CA Posts: 23	I am doing well, thanks! Yesterday was Day #1 of one pill! I know its nuts how i'm drawing this out, but its working for me. I have plenty to cover my taper, plus plus. So i am working on the guts to throw them out, even if its 10 a day. Phew, thats a hard one. HOw are you doing???? __________________

02-26-2006, 09:52 AM	#128 (permalink)
bonesy Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oakland , CA Posts: 23	Woops I just talked to my friend who is "talking me thought the taper". Her doc had her drop .5 mg and stay there for at least 7 days. Maybe you could try that. How are you feeling? Free, still going strong? Bonesy __________________

02-28-2006, 09:23 AM	#134 (permalink)
bonesy Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oakland , CA Posts: 23	Free, Woops, Golf, and fellow strugglers Am holding the course. I'm on day 5 of one pill, with specific plans for the upcoming cuts.I've been talking to my friend who has helped me a lot with the taper; she's been super encouraging. We're discussing plans to dispense with my stash. God, i can't believe it, but i think i will actually do it.Since she is the only one in my life (except you all) who knows of my demons, i have noone to "hold" them for me. She is an addict too, so that is not an option. I'm still nonchalantly dropping one or two in the sink, but i've got to deal with the whole stash. I have two stressful trips coming up and i've given myself permission to hold steady til i return in two weeks til i do the next drop. Otherwise i'm afraid i'll screw up. So then my friend will sit with me while i call the online doc and tell him/her to NOT give me my last two refills. And gulp, say adios to the bottles. The more I say it the better it is. It hleps me a lot to read whats going on with everyone. Free, Golf, you guys are doing great. Woops, hows it going?? Bonesy __________________

02-28-2006, 10:50 AM	#137 (permalink)
sheat Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 14	Hello everyone!!!!!!!!!!! Hi Free - woops I'm glad to hear you all are ok. Free its wonderful to hear your Free CONGRATS Woops It sounds like you are doing better, A slower taper is probably better,are you working or stay at home mom? Either one is a job working or staying home with kids!! I still havent started my taper yet, I'm scared My Dr. upped my dose for a week,now i have to get back down to what i was taking I'm going to do a slow taper 2mgs every two weeks! Thats what my Dr. wants to do. Good Luck Agent I think it was?? I'm on16 mgs of suboxone and I've been on it for 2 years. I went to a treatment center for help and they put me on a pain pill with an opiate receptor in it and sent me home,so i quit taking them and went in full blown w/d. It was bullshyt. I have 2 kids and i'm a single mom with no help, so my dr. put me back on sub,and here i'am still on it, my family thinks i been off it for a year now. My husband died from methadone and vics mixed substance overdose, thats what straightened me up-real quick!! So how did you taper from suboxone??? Glad all of you are doing good,I hope i will be where you all are soon. I want to c/t it but i dont think i can with the kids, and tapering is really hard for me!! God Bless You All!!! GOOD LUCK TO ALL SHEA

02-28-2006, 11:47 AM	#139 (permalink)
bonesy Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oakland , CA Posts: 23	Buzz Am totally grappling with that same issue. I take heart from your story and feel inspired by your 50+ pill free days. Free, again thanks. I will keep plodding along. How are you feeling???? __________________

02-25-2006, 10:53 AM	#127 (permalink)
woops Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: middle earth Posts: 962	Thanks guys............ Yep - one day at a time! I have decided to slow it all down - this fast taper is killing me - I simply cannot deal with the withdrawals and living....... and am setting myself up to fail. So - decided to slow down - take it easy - reduce by much less every 3/4 days - and even then I will be free of these awful drugs in a matter of a few weeks. I already feel great for having made this decision and am sitting here almost symptom free for not cutting down - will stay at this level for a couple of days and then resume on down........................................I feel comfortable now about all this! Cheers to you all for encouragement - and well done to those brave souls who have won!!!!!

02-26-2006, 10:13 AM	#129 (permalink)
golf99 Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: MIDCOAST NH Posts: 329	Woops, I have tried tapering in the past, it always ended in failure. Whenever I had an issue that I seemed large I'd pop pills. When I really wanted to quit, tapering was not even an option. I felt if I had the sh#t in my house I wasn't true to recovery. I always thought tapering of pills was like being an alcoholic and weaning from 12 beers a day for a week to 11 beers..and so on. It does take MASSIVE will-power to quit this poison, when you are ready you will know. I do admire your hard work in the 'taper' method, you will find the right plan for you. Best, Golf

02-26-2006, 09:05 PM	#130 (permalink)
free2see Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: san antonio texas Posts: 78	12 DAYS free Recover-thanks- camping went great. Congrat's on the script and your move to get through this WITH your wife-that's great. Bonesy- I'm doing ok. I have a lot of energy which for the most part is good.(except when it turns to anxiety!)-congrat's on your taper- almost there!! The taper worked for me. It's was hard mentally but I now feel I have much more control over the drug.

02-27-2006, 02:01 PM	#131 (permalink)
free2see Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: san antonio texas Posts: 78	13 days

02-27-2006, 02:02 PM	#132 (permalink)
free2see Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: san antonio texas Posts: 78	Bonesy? Woops? Recover? Lady? Agent? How are you all doing?

02-27-2006, 02:29 PM	#133 (permalink)
golf99 Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: MIDCOAST NH Posts: 329	Great job on 13 days!!!!!!

02-28-2006, 09:44 AM	#135 (permalink)
Buzz Kilowatt Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Terminus, GA Posts: 477	I chose the taper method as a way to try to reduce the severity of the discomfort when I quit cold turkey. I did taper down to a "jumping off" pint but I was "only doing" (2) 7.5 HC pills/day. For those folks that have larger pill intakes I'd recommend the taper method, and do it slowly so your body adjusts to it. Although I haven't slipped in 58 days, I have to wonder why I still keep that one refill around. Not trusting myself 100%, I put it in a locked gun vault. It's just as deadly as the lead stuff also in there. I guess we spend so much time making sure that we don't run out of the stuff that procuring it has become a habit or fetish in itself. The addict mind thinks, "well, what if I injure myself or am in real pain" when the fact is that a couple of Advil work as well, if not better for pain, than these HC do for me now! Obviously, the monkey won't be off my back until I muster the courage and conviction to get these out of my house forever. If I break a leg or whatever, I'll just have to worry about it then. Anyone else have a strange compulsion to hang onto their junk, "just in case??" Buzz

02-28-2006, 10:24 AM	#136 (permalink)
free2see Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: san antonio texas Posts: 78	14 days It is totally natural to hide and stash. Your mind is in survival mode. Cutting the cord with my doctor was the hardest thing. It's like taking a step foreward while blindfolded. Bonesy- you are doing great!! Take each small victory to heart.

02-28-2006, 11:27 AM	#138 (permalink)
sandluvr Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Lowell, MA Posts: 5	Buzz, How are you Doing, Ihave slowed my taper down, it was a bit to tough, I felt like a bit of a failure. But after reading all of these threads I realize its probably better for me. I gain so much from all of you, to know that I am not the only one trying to get these DEMONS out of my life. I pray for myself and for all of you everyday,. Keep up the good work. Hopefully soon we'll all be happier, and healthier God Bless Sandluvr

02-28-2006, 12:19 PM	#140 (permalink)
Alera SR's SMART Goth Mod Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,892	I had to slower my taper down, and I felt horrible. It was pointed out to me that this was my big chance at recovery, and if I wanted to get clean I should do it right. If that meant slowing down my taper, then so be it. It was my once good shot before I lost everything. So it was worth slowing down a little. __________________ Copyright © 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 Alera The addiction will protect itself ... AT ALL COSTS.

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03-01-2006, 05:22 PM	#141 (permalink)
woops Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: middle earth Posts: 962	Hey Mr Free Just look how far you have come..............................

03-01-2006, 05:53 PM	#142 (permalink)
free2see Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: san antonio texas Posts: 78	woops-We're all making our way foreward!! 15 days

03-02-2006, 02:31 PM	#143 (permalink)
agent alias Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: cyberspace Posts: 139	HI all! I'm so sorry that I've been away but I had the deadly flu. Daily fevers for 8 days. I was dying. worse than WDs. I think. At least with WDs. You know its over within a certain amount of time then its over, but with this flu , it seemed endless. However, I'm feeling much better but not all there still. Here at work. So busy though at work. Busy posting here! Ha! Free2see- AWESOME DUDE!!!@! amazing! How are you feeling? Obviously great! Great job! Woops and Bonsey- Your tapering sounds geat. I cannot taper whatsoever. I'm a loser , weakling. Sheat - (((((hugs))))) to you...I totally understand about that crap. Tapering is hard on Sub. But you're gonna have to. I am also a single mom with a daughter. I am not going to sugarcoat the WDs because they're deadly. However, I believe if you taper at a very slow pace, you can do it. You are on SUBOXONE instead of SUBUTEX? Can you switch over to Subutex instead? I believe it is easier to taper off that than Suboxone. You will have to a very slow taper which will take months. By dropping .25mg on a weekly basis. I was chipping off the 2mg tablet and I will actually feel relief licking powdered chips from the tablet. I wasn't working though at that time but just going to the University. I even went to classes with WDs but you're just working at such a slow pace. Everything was painful physically and phsycological as well. You will need help at times especially towards the end of the taper. Any other family members can help you, hun? BUT, for myself, I figured that I would also use about #30 hydros to taper off the Sub because hydros are short acting (4-8 hours) versuses the Sub which is way long acting (12-24 hours) . I never went back to the hydros because I just wanted off that rollercoaster so bad (use to be 35+ a day pill addict). If you do it my way, I would throw in some Immodium AD in between the hydros to help. We can also request the help of Philster2003 to help with tapering. He has a great tapering schedule and he was at 50+ a day of hydros. I can help you with that at another time. I will make your very own thread to help you out if need to be. OK? NO worries and YOU WILL DO THIS. How are you feeling on the Sub now though? Why do you want to come off it? This post is become too lengthy! Sorry for the all of the rambling!!! YOU GUYS ARE DOING GREAT! Here's the hula dance for you all. ALOHA!!!! Because after you guys are done...That's what you feel like....looking at beautiful sunset on an Hawaiin beach...aaaahhhhh. Absolutely fab! So ALOHA all! __________________ Take care~ Agent

03-05-2006, 04:36 PM	#144 (permalink)
Lady_Blue Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: state of confusion.. Posts: 353	Hey EVERYBODY!! I; too, have been MIA for awhile, been FELLING very crappy, but otherwise, I'm so HAPPY to say that I AM ALIVE and VERY WELL...(Thank You!) I'm VERY VERY close to being completely FREE of my "demon" (hydro's) as well, it feels so good! Now I know what ppl mean when I've read posts about "the fog lifting." My GOD! It's so awesome!! __________________ "Sorry is looking back. Worry is looking around. Faith, my friend; is looking up." May you always have Love to Share , Health to Spare, and Friends that Care Peace! lala Smiles, LadyBlue

03-06-2006, 03:06 AM	#145 (permalink)
woops Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: middle earth Posts: 962	Good to hear you sounding "chipper" Lady Blue................. Not me - I am feeling rotten!! OK - just being honest. Just plugging away here - just trying to get ever lower with the codeine...................... but I am getting pretty sick of the whole situation. But - what choice do I have? Good to hear you are over the flu, Agent................ So - we just have to line up behind Free and get flying? My wee brain just feels frantic!!! No calm or peace here yet! And as for the fog clearing.....................................

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