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Old 10-03-2009, 11:28 AM   #126 (permalink)
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Most of those expensive 'rapid-detox' methods are a scam anyways, so don't worry about that whole thing. They typically involve putting you under (for like a whole DAY!) and administering an opioid antagonist to basically put you into immediate withdrawals, which you don't feel cause you're out.

In a sense it is a way to 'jump-start' the recovery process a little bit, but in the long run, it's SOOOO not worth the money they charge. When you wake up, you are going to be smack in the middle of horrible withdrawals. This process does not 'fix' you, it just neutralizes any opioids still in your system.

A lot of people are under the mistaken impression that the terrible effects of opioid detox are being caused by the 'toxins leaving your system'. When you're hungover from drinking, this is, in fact the case. But it's not with opioid detox. The W/D's are caused by massive chemical imbalances in natural brain chemicals and hormones, and this cannot be magically fixed by simply removing the so-called 'toxins'.

So ... I doubt you're missing out on anything great by not spending the $16K

And yes, most insurance plans will cover suboxone.
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Old 10-03-2009, 12:38 PM   #127 (permalink)
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bval, I don't know how I am going to able to endure a 30 hour withdrawal. That seems to be a real problem to hurdle. I almost hurt myself after 10 hours of w/d from screaming, punching, and writhing in pain. That experience changed me; actually damaged me. It ended at 1am, after going to the hospital by ambulance and a shot of morphine.

"This is going to hurt," the doctor told me while administering the shot. Hurt? I couldn't feel it. It took seemingly forever to work (probably 15-25 minutes or less in reality.) I don't feel that I can endure that again.

This is a big problem.
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Old 10-09-2009, 01:25 PM   #128 (permalink)
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ya oxycodone/oxycontin...........they are pritty much the same thing just different names.you probably took oxycontin wich is time release oxycodone.

but ya thanks for replying

maybe you could give me some advice on what helped you?

hmmmm... i thought that oxycodone is vicadin, nothing like oxycontin, which is a "cleaner" form of heroin
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Old 10-09-2009, 03:27 PM   #129 (permalink)
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hmmmm... i thought that oxycodone is vicadin, nothing like oxycontin, which is a "cleaner" form of heroin
Oxycodone is both Percocet (Oxycodone w/acetaminophen) and Oxycontin (Oxycodone timed release w/o acetaminophen).
Vicodin is hydrocodone. They're all opiates, just varying in strength and compounding.
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Old 10-26-2009, 04:52 PM   #130 (permalink)
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is it just me thinking that people stop posting when they are successful (or fail)?
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Unhappy I'm still here

I am having an awful time of it. I had to move, and my new apartment is dark and depressing. I have been very isolated. I need help more than ever, but just want to isolate.

I owe many apologies. I see I have 19 private messages!
I'm very sorry. I will go through each one and reply.

This is how I deal (not) with sadness and fear: isolation.

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Old 10-30-2009, 06:07 PM   #134 (permalink)
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Change in life is always gonna happen. We cant stop it. Just know that you are not alone. There are people that are praying for you and wish you the very best.
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Old 11-09-2009, 10:56 AM   #135 (permalink)
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Hi guys, Im new to the forum. I found this late last night while seeking information on recovery. Ive been using oxy roughly 60-160 mgs a day for the past 5-6 mos. I have stopped on occasion but this time i plan on stopping for good. I have dealt with prior addictions but this one seems to be in a class all by itself. Its more the habit of popping the pills than anything but the sides are defnitely odd. ALOT of sweating at night, shaking, etc. Something that started recently has me very scared, and thats waking up every night with my hands and arms numb and tingly, like they are falling asleep, especially my left arm, and my wrist will hurt. and this will come and go through out the day. I found online a couple isntances of others having this same feeling. this is what has scared me into quitting. Its like my body is not pumping blood to these extremities and im slowly dying yet awake and watching it happen. Every night i wake up 2-3 times and have to "shake" blood back down into my hands, or ill use my good hands to help push blood down into my hand, in a "milking a cow" type move. At any rate, i did aquire suboxone and have started with it. it does help. I have quit for a week or 2 before without any major wd's as some of you have mentioned but i have definitely stayed awake all night in bed with uncontrollable shakes that rippled from my abdomin and up through my arms, with muscle clenching, etc. Much like others the symptoms only seem to pop up at night. I get through the work day with no trouble. im scared of what might come from what ive read. another motivator was listening to loveline and hearing dr. drew say that it takes 5 days and its done. obviously not what alot of people hear have said but i guess those are the worst 5. im starting fresh today on day 1, and will use this forum as my motivator. Ill keep you posted. Your stories have been great to read. im looking forward to making these travels with you all. thanks much, ill be back soon.
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Old 11-09-2009, 12:35 PM   #136 (permalink)
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I think the reason that the symptoms occur mostly at night is that is when your brain is not busy. I found that keeping the mind occupied helps ease the symptoms a great deal. The mind is the most powerful drug there is. Good luck in your efforts, my prayers are with you.
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Hi There,

I posted about a month ago... I think I was in the wrong "forum" area!!

I have been having quite the problem with Oxycodone. I took it for migraines, and then... I found myself taking for the "happiness" it brought me in my so-called stressed filled life. Nothing bothered me while I was on it.

I successfully went off of it for 7 days! I was starting to feel okay, and then my husband renewed my prescription. He hangs on to the bottle... but I caught myself sneaking them everynight :o( I am so angry with myself AND my husband. He said he did it for "just in case" reasons, but I found out he's taking them when he needs an "upper"!! Then he turns around and instead of supporting me he gave me sh*t for taking them.

Sorry to ramble on... I just wanted to get this out of my system. I am going to try and go cold turkey AGAIN today. My doctor supports me going cold turkey and I speak to him every week. He just doesn't know that I "lapsed". I wish there was an easier way to get through this!
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I wish you the best in your efforts. This is always a place for you to vent and get your feelings out.
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I am successfully on day three!! Boy oh boy... I can't believe I did this once before and didn't learn my lesson!! The night time sweats have finally stopped.. that was just disgusting!! I still find myself shaking from time to time, but mostly I just feel VERY lethargic. Don't really feel up to doing anything right now... well... except for RUNNING to the bathroom! I think I am going to take a previous poster's advice and get some Amodium ad. I DO feel more in control of myself though... THAT is a great feeling. Everytime I think I need to pop a pill, I give my daughter a hug instead. She is only 2 and LOVES the attention. Keeping my fingers crossed for another 3 days. I am just curious as to how long this lasts for?????
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Congratulations on making it to day 3. For my the symptoms lasted only 4 days so you seem to be almost out of the woods. You have already won the most difficult battle, the one with your mind. Wat to go!
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Soccer... did you ever find that your shoulders tingled?? Kinda like nerves?
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I never did feel that. I did have restless legs though. But all my symptoms were gone in like 4 days, thank goodness.
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i'm starting suboxone tomorrow... nervous as all getout! but i found that it made it slightly more bareable last time (i was inpatient last time) so.... we'll see how this pans out.
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My daughter just revealed to us my wife and I that she has been withdrawing from oxy for 4 days.She is perscribed Zanax for anxiety and she still takes 2 (.5) blue tabs a day. She has had horrible anxiety since she was a child so I doubt she will ever get completely off of Zanax or something like it.She seems to think she's done with the oxy but I fear she'll go back again without support.She is intent on not going to the rehab program because she thinks she initiated the withdrawl from the drugs without intervention. Does she have much chance of success? I am hopeful but extremely pessimistic....
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New member here. Developed chronic back pain from years of standing at my job. They cannot find what is wrong but it is debilitating. Doc finally put me on Oxy and I have been using it daily for at leats 3 years.
Decided that I needed to get away from it so this is about 36 hours since any dose at all. Last night was hell, legs wanted to run out of bed without me. Damn chills etc..... I had prepped myself fo the final cut but cutting back daily a little at a time. 5 MG cut a day until I was down to 10 for the day. That didnt hurt until I just stopped that completely. Maybe I should have kept going with the cutbacks until it was next to nothing? Any thoughts from those who have tried this method?
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For me, going cold turkey was the way to go. I felt like caa-caa for a day or two then started to return to normal. I think cutting back is still feeding the addiction. But whatever method you chose, I wish you the best.
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i'm starting suboxone tomorrow... nervous as all getout! but i found that it made it slightly more bareable last time (i was inpatient last time) so.... we'll see how this pans out.
If you take an appropriate amount of subs for the size of your addiction, it will do a lot more than make it slightly more bearable. You'll go through one day of feeling slightly crappy instead of 5-7 of hell, and then you'll feel pretty much exactly like you did before you ever started messing with opioids.

Nothing to be nervous about. You're going to be really happy you made this choice.

Let us know how it's going

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