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soccer · 09-17-2009, 12:39 PM

Today is day 2 for me. I talked to my doctor yesterday and he told me to come in and he would give me more pills. I told him I didnt need them. I asked if there was anything I could take to make me a functional person and he reccomended ***** Cold and Sinus. Let me tell you that this worked wonders for me yesterday. I felt almost normal, it took away the body aches and the sweating and even let me sleep last night. Dont know if it would workk for everyone but it worked for me. Thanks to everyone for this discussion. One thing I would like to add is DO NOT let the postings scare you! They are intended to let you know what you can go through not what you will go through. Everyone is different. It can be done.

Ekat · 09-17-2009, 06:58 PM

Did you mix me up with somebody else, Soccer?

Ekat · 09-17-2009, 07:09 PM

My doctor wants me to go into detox for 3-4 days. I can bang my head through a wall after 10 hours without oxys. I am very frightened and I'm wondering if anyone can give me any advice. I don't feel that I can get through it. I am also terrified of the anxiety that comes with this process. I have a severe panic disorder.

PLEASE HELP!

(this is my brain)

soccer · 09-18-2009, 06:20 PM

Day 3 is almost over for me. I am begining to think I can do this. Almost feel human again. Thanks to everyone that sent prayers up for me, couldnt have done it without those. You will all continue to be in my prayers.

soccer · 09-21-2009, 06:12 PM

I made it through the weekend. The physical withdrawl seems to be over, now the battle with my mind can begin in earnest. Just to let everyone know it can be done if you really want to do it. My thanks and prayers go to all of you.

soccer · 09-29-2009, 12:05 PM

You know what is wrong with the country today? I think I have figured it out. It is more difficult to get certain over the counter cold medicines than to get narcotic pain relievers. I can call a Doc and they will say OK pick them up at the pharmacy for the pain meds. For the cold meds it takes a picture ID, computer check, and only 12 capsules per month. What is this world coming to

rainbow1 · 09-29-2009, 05:09 PM

I am so glad I found this site and am reading these posts. I am on day 2 of codine addiction and I called in sick today because I felt like I had the "flu". My whole body aches and I'm out of breath walking up the stairs.

People here seem to think it gets (at least a little) better after day (3). Is this really right? If so, I'll take tomorrow off too and watch some movies and try and feel better. I seriously couldn't function at work. I even felt like I am going to throw up. Is that right too?

It will get worse tomorrow tho...from what I understand here. Right? Ugh. Maybe I picked a bad time since I'm starting PMS, but I'm out and I dont want to go to jail. Been doing this for a year now....ugh. Wish I never did.

Wishing everyone else lots of hope and prayers as I now know what you are going thru. It seems like this is even the easiest drug to get over and I still feel like sh#$.

Vintersemestre · 09-29-2009, 07:27 PM

^ no it is NOT easy to get over. Depending on your dose removing a codeine addiction is as bad as morphine.

Ekat · 09-29-2009, 09:09 PM

I want to express my complete admiration for anyone who has recovered from these monstrous drugs.

I just began the slowest of tapers, and I feel depressed and depleted. My baseline is depression, anyway, and I have no idea how I am ever going to get through this.

My children have left me and my dog is depressed because I am so paralyzed. Going on these drugs was the stupidest thing I ever did in my life.

Vintersemestre · 09-30-2009, 01:24 AM

The doctor decided not to chuck you into detox then? That was a good idea on his part because based on what you've been saying (how you feel when you don't have any) I don't think you would have lasted long before you were out on the street looking for something unless they had given you methadone or something.

rainbow1 · 09-30-2009, 06:57 AM

No....I haven't been put on any taper drugs. I "happen" to have some Lorazapam that I have only used at bedtime. It is now day 3. I woke up feeling a little better than yesterday, but I have taken off work just in case the "shoe drops" on me again. I just hate how lathargic I am and want to do nothing. How did Codine give me so much energy? That seems weird to me. Now, I just want to curl up in a whole and do nothing....

ugh

rainbow1 · 09-30-2009, 06:59 AM

I am praying for you Ekat. I'm not sure I could do a slow taper. I just want 4 days of hell and done...I wish you out of this depression. Get your kids back luv!!!

Ekat · 09-30-2009, 10:24 AM

I don't see another way, and I have no way of knowing whether this is going to work. As I said, I am already very depressed, and that's just from holding steady at the dose (120 daily.) I literally don't want to do anything.

Believe me, I wish I can just go in to detox, and get this over with, but that post that someone made (a first-time poster,) about a box of nails, planks, and a hammer, hit me like a hammer. That one night in withdrawal was very damaging to me. I have not been the same since. It set off a panic, and I nightmare about it all the time. It's like I keep re-living it. I'm so frightened.

Ekat · 09-30-2009, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainbow1

No....I haven't been put on any taper drugs. I "happen" to have some Lorazapam that I have only used at bedtime. It is now day 3. I woke up feeling a little better than yesterday, but I have taken off work just in case the "shoe drops" on me again. I just hate how lathargic I am and want to do nothing. How did Codine give me so much energy? That seems weird to me. Now, I just want to curl up in a whole and do nothing....

ugh

I wish that I had words of solace and wisdom for you. I feel so sad for anyone in pain. I will keep you in my prayers. These drugs are so horrible. I wish every single person could be induced into five minutes of full w/d. Every single person. I'm sure that it would turn people off from ever trying this garbage, under any circumstance (except for the worst of pain from terminal cancers.) This is no way to live.

bval · 09-30-2009, 10:58 AM

Ekat ... I honestly urge you to consider going onto subs.

Your life will change for the better almost immediately if you do. You will feel almost exactly like you did before you ever started messing with the opioids in a matter of a couple of days.

And you won't be looking at a tapering/quitting scenario that's all that different than the one you're looking at now ... except it's easier to taper off of subs, much less uncomfortable. In the very end, if you end up on them for a long time, then the w/d's do linger a little longer than they would if you just came off of oxys ... but as long as you taper down to a real low dose, they aren't too terrible, honestly.

Trying to wean down using your DOC is, in my experience, a much more miserable and trying experience than weaning off of subs.

rainbow1 · 09-30-2009, 11:21 AM

I've never felt "panic" only "flu-like" symptoms, so I am so sad that you are going through this. Some people post that benzo's are the only way to get thru it, and some people post that the lingering effects (for months sometimes) makes them worse to try.

I'm guessing it depends on the person. For you, who suffer from panic attacks and other forms of depression, you probably should get on some sort of sub to get you out of this mess luv. Either way...you have to go through this sometime. You might as well start getting the hell over with. It seems like you want to be clean and I'll hold your hand if you need it....Just find a "lesser" evil med that will help you and start healing.

I agree with you and wishing and begging you were never on it. I will start the mental part of it soon, where I will crave the "high"...right now I just want to feel normal. I hope (like they say) this is the worst of it.....I couldn't feel any worse than now.

Warmest Prayers,
rainbow

Vintersemestre · 09-30-2009, 11:50 AM

Don't go condemning the drugs as a whole... I've been taking 20-40mg a day for years (20mg these days) and it helps me live. It brings my pain threshold up to a normal level. Imagine what it would feel like if just your blood coursing through your body hurt you. THAT'S no way to live.

rainbow1 · 09-30-2009, 02:04 PM

I definately did not mean to condemn them as a whole. I'm only repeating what I've read on posts. Personally, I've never tried them. Like I said, I guess it would depend on the person.

sorry for the confusion.

rainbow1 · 09-30-2009, 02:06 PM

The above post is if you meant the benzos...If you mean the pain pills....I definately know what it's like to absolutely need them. I started cuz I had breast cancer. I needed them badly. I could have (and should have) gotten off them over a year ago. I just didnt....

Ekat · 09-30-2009, 07:03 PM

I am more confused than ever. I take all the posts very seriously on this board. Does insurance pay for suboxone? I am trying with my little taper, and even this is hard. The body wants more oxy, and I'm giving it a little less.

I don't think that I was ever "high" on oxycodone, but for the first 5 months or so, they sure made me feel 'normal' and not imprisoned by anxiety. Now I'm imprisoned by both drugs and anxiety.

I have terrible thoughts all the time, but I am afraid of leaving this planet.

soccer · 09-30-2009, 07:26 PM

Ekat,
Things will get better with time patience and prayer. Your very strong and can get through whatever you set your mind on. You know where to come if you want to vent. :praying

Vintersemestre · 10-01-2009, 04:28 AM

If you have terrible anxiety and you find that opiates ease it you may be best off going on suboxone and staying on until you see if you can figure out a strategy to deal with this crippling problem - I know how bad anxiety and depression are, trust me. I'm only saying this because you're already on opiates, so that "problem" is already present, going down Benzo Boulevard would not be a wise decision at this point as that would give you a whole new truckload of problems.

And don't think negatively of yourself if you find opiates moderate your anxiety and depression, it's just what they do, what can I say - also Suboxone IS being used as a psychiatric drug in the "mood stabilizer" category now for people with intractable issues that are not helped by anything else. A modern, patient, informed and sympathetic physician or psychiatrist will understand this.

rainbow1 · 10-01-2009, 07:22 AM

You will definately come up with the right mix EKAT...whatever that is. You need to talk with your doctor and tell him you are serious about quitting and what is the logical way to do that.

I am on day 4.....but I person I know who alway has pain pills with him is coming over....This could be where I screw up.

I'm praying for all of us...but EKAT...you hang in there hun!!!!

Ekat · 10-01-2009, 09:21 AM

I would like to do the Waismann Method rapid detox. I actually thought this up myself, and found that it was actually being done. But insurance won't pay for it and it costs $16,000.

I am a nervous wreck right now. I can do almost nothing. I can't believe I fell into this hole. There seems like there's no way out. Furthermore, I have no support system. Both of my girls became angry with me because of my anxiety and left (God, I so needed them) and my ex is a psychiatrist who I met in college. We were both pre-med students. We both got into medical school, married the summer between college and medical school, and I got pregnant in November of that year. We decided that I would stay with our child, and he would go through medical school. 20 years later he divorced me, leaving me with no assets and a 20 year gap in my work history.

When I first started the opiates, they seemed like a Godsend. I had a lot of energy (because they tamed the anxiety and panic) and started moving forward with my life. But the condition that I was being treated for with the opiates subsided, and I'm stuck with this horrible monkey on my back. I feel like I'm on a train to Hell. I have tried so hard to be a great wife and mother, and everyone complemented me on this, but after the divorce (and I BEGGED my husband not to go through with it) everything fell apart.

I feel like I need a break -- and some loving care.

Ekat

rainbow1 · 10-02-2009, 09:07 AM

I am so sorry for this awful year you are having. Hopefully, you can taper off the drugs and get some of your life back slowly. It will be baby steps....

Horrible in someways but very fullfilling in others. I'm glad you are constantly thinking about your kids. This just proves you are still a great mother, you have lost your way and need to get back. You love them and want to move forward....It is ok to let go of someone who can't be the "one" for you. I know that must have been hard to let him go in light of everyting else you have been going through.

When God closes a door he always opens a window....lets just go find your window. Don't be to hard on your self...take small baby steps. You can do it!!!

09-17-2009, 12:39 PM	#101 (permalink)
soccer Soccer Mini Golf Champion! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Hawaii Posts: 48	Day 2 Today is day 2 for me. I talked to my doctor yesterday and he told me to come in and he would give me more pills. I told him I didnt need them. I asked if there was anything I could take to make me a functional person and he reccomended ***** Cold and Sinus. Let me tell you that this worked wonders for me yesterday. I felt almost normal, it took away the body aches and the sweating and even let me sleep last night. Dont know if it would workk for everyone but it worked for me. Thanks to everyone for this discussion. One thing I would like to add is DO NOT let the postings scare you! They are intended to let you know what you can go through not what you will go through. Everyone is different. It can be done. Last edited by Dee74; 09-29-2009 at 04:09 PM. Reason: removed brand name

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soccer Soccer Mini Golf Champion! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Hawaii Posts: 48	Day 3 Day 3 is almost over for me. I am begining to think I can do this. Almost feel human again. Thanks to everyone that sent prayers up for me, couldnt have done it without those. You will all continue to be in my prayers.

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09-17-2009, 06:58 PM	#102 (permalink)
Ekat Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cambridge, Mass Posts: 115	Did you mix me up with somebody else, Soccer?

09-17-2009, 07:09 PM	#103 (permalink)
Ekat Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cambridge, Mass Posts: 115	My doctor wants me to go into detox for 3-4 days. I can bang my head through a wall after 10 hours without oxys. I am very frightened and I'm wondering if anyone can give me any advice. I don't feel that I can get through it. I am also terrified of the anxiety that comes with this process. I have a severe panic disorder. PLEASE HELP! (this is my brain)

09-21-2009, 06:12 PM	#105 (permalink)
soccer Soccer Mini Golf Champion! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Hawaii Posts: 48	I made it through the weekend. The physical withdrawl seems to be over, now the battle with my mind can begin in earnest. Just to let everyone know it can be done if you really want to do it. My thanks and prayers go to all of you.

09-29-2009, 12:05 PM	#106 (permalink)
soccer Soccer Mini Golf Champion! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Hawaii Posts: 48	You know what is wrong with the country today? I think I have figured it out. It is more difficult to get certain over the counter cold medicines than to get narcotic pain relievers. I can call a Doc and they will say OK pick them up at the pharmacy for the pain meds. For the cold meds it takes a picture ID, computer check, and only 12 capsules per month. What is this world coming to

09-29-2009, 05:09 PM	#107 (permalink)
rainbow1 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 8	I am so glad I found this site and am reading these posts. I am on day 2 of codine addiction and I called in sick today because I felt like I had the "flu". My whole body aches and I'm out of breath walking up the stairs. People here seem to think it gets (at least a little) better after day (3). Is this really right? If so, I'll take tomorrow off too and watch some movies and try and feel better. I seriously couldn't function at work. I even felt like I am going to throw up. Is that right too? It will get worse tomorrow tho...from what I understand here. Right? Ugh. Maybe I picked a bad time since I'm starting PMS, but I'm out and I dont want to go to jail. Been doing this for a year now....ugh. Wish I never did. Wishing everyone else lots of hope and prayers as I now know what you are going thru. It seems like this is even the easiest drug to get over and I still feel like sh#$.

09-29-2009, 07:27 PM	#108 (permalink)
Vintersemestre Mysteria Magica Maxima Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 843 Blog Entries: 5	^ no it is NOT easy to get over. Depending on your dose removing a codeine addiction is as bad as morphine.

09-29-2009, 09:09 PM	#109 (permalink)
Ekat Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cambridge, Mass Posts: 115	I want to express my complete admiration for anyone who has recovered from these monstrous drugs. I just began the slowest of tapers, and I feel depressed and depleted. My baseline is depression, anyway, and I have no idea how I am ever going to get through this. My children have left me and my dog is depressed because I am so paralyzed. Going on these drugs was the stupidest thing I ever did in my life.

09-30-2009, 01:24 AM	#110 (permalink)
Vintersemestre Mysteria Magica Maxima Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 843 Blog Entries: 5	The doctor decided not to chuck you into detox then? That was a good idea on his part because based on what you've been saying (how you feel when you don't have any) I don't think you would have lasted long before you were out on the street looking for something unless they had given you methadone or something.

09-30-2009, 06:57 AM	#111 (permalink)
rainbow1 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 8	No....I haven't been put on any taper drugs. I "happen" to have some Lorazapam that I have only used at bedtime. It is now day 3. I woke up feeling a little better than yesterday, but I have taken off work just in case the "shoe drops" on me again. I just hate how lathargic I am and want to do nothing. How did Codine give me so much energy? That seems weird to me. Now, I just want to curl up in a whole and do nothing.... ugh

09-30-2009, 06:59 AM	#112 (permalink)
rainbow1 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 8	I am praying for you Ekat. I'm not sure I could do a slow taper. I just want 4 days of hell and done...I wish you out of this depression. Get your kids back luv!!!

09-30-2009, 10:24 AM	#113 (permalink)
Ekat Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cambridge, Mass Posts: 115	I don't see another way, and I have no way of knowing whether this is going to work. As I said, I am already very depressed, and that's just from holding steady at the dose (120 daily.) I literally don't want to do anything. Believe me, I wish I can just go in to detox, and get this over with, but that post that someone made (a first-time poster,) about a box of nails, planks, and a hammer, hit me like a hammer. That one night in withdrawal was very damaging to me. I have not been the same since. It set off a panic, and I nightmare about it all the time. It's like I keep re-living it. I'm so frightened.

09-30-2009, 10:58 AM	#115 (permalink)
bval Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: CA Native Posts: 2,509	Ekat ... I honestly urge you to consider going onto subs. Your life will change for the better almost immediately if you do. You will feel almost exactly like you did before you ever started messing with the opioids in a matter of a couple of days. And you won't be looking at a tapering/quitting scenario that's all that different than the one you're looking at now ... except it's easier to taper off of subs, much less uncomfortable. In the very end, if you end up on them for a long time, then the w/d's do linger a little longer than they would if you just came off of oxys ... but as long as you taper down to a real low dose, they aren't too terrible, honestly. Trying to wean down using your DOC is, in my experience, a much more miserable and trying experience than weaning off of subs.

09-30-2009, 11:21 AM	#116 (permalink)
rainbow1 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 8	I've never felt "panic" only "flu-like" symptoms, so I am so sad that you are going through this. Some people post that benzo's are the only way to get thru it, and some people post that the lingering effects (for months sometimes) makes them worse to try. I'm guessing it depends on the person. For you, who suffer from panic attacks and other forms of depression, you probably should get on some sort of sub to get you out of this mess luv. Either way...you have to go through this sometime. You might as well start getting the hell over with. It seems like you want to be clean and I'll hold your hand if you need it....Just find a "lesser" evil med that will help you and start healing. I agree with you and wishing and begging you were never on it. I will start the mental part of it soon, where I will crave the "high"...right now I just want to feel normal. I hope (like they say) this is the worst of it.....I couldn't feel any worse than now. Warmest Prayers, rainbow

09-30-2009, 11:50 AM	#117 (permalink)
Vintersemestre Mysteria Magica Maxima Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 843 Blog Entries: 5	Don't go condemning the drugs as a whole... I've been taking 20-40mg a day for years (20mg these days) and it helps me live. It brings my pain threshold up to a normal level. Imagine what it would feel like if just your blood coursing through your body hurt you. THAT'S no way to live.

09-30-2009, 02:04 PM	#118 (permalink)
rainbow1 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 8	I definately did not mean to condemn them as a whole. I'm only repeating what I've read on posts. Personally, I've never tried them. Like I said, I guess it would depend on the person. sorry for the confusion.

09-30-2009, 02:06 PM	#119 (permalink)
rainbow1 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 8	The above post is if you meant the benzos...If you mean the pain pills....I definately know what it's like to absolutely need them. I started cuz I had breast cancer. I needed them badly. I could have (and should have) gotten off them over a year ago. I just didnt....

09-30-2009, 07:03 PM	#120 (permalink)
Ekat Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cambridge, Mass Posts: 115	I am more confused than ever. I take all the posts very seriously on this board. Does insurance pay for suboxone? I am trying with my little taper, and even this is hard. The body wants more oxy, and I'm giving it a little less. I don't think that I was ever "high" on oxycodone, but for the first 5 months or so, they sure made me feel 'normal' and not imprisoned by anxiety. Now I'm imprisoned by both drugs and anxiety. I have terrible thoughts all the time, but I am afraid of leaving this planet.

09-30-2009, 07:26 PM	#121 (permalink)
soccer Soccer Mini Golf Champion! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Hawaii Posts: 48	Ekat, Things will get better with time patience and prayer. Your very strong and can get through whatever you set your mind on. You know where to come if you want to vent. :praying

10-01-2009, 04:28 AM	#122 (permalink)
Vintersemestre Mysteria Magica Maxima Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 843 Blog Entries: 5	If you have terrible anxiety and you find that opiates ease it you may be best off going on suboxone and staying on until you see if you can figure out a strategy to deal with this crippling problem - I know how bad anxiety and depression are, trust me. I'm only saying this because you're already on opiates, so that "problem" is already present, going down Benzo Boulevard would not be a wise decision at this point as that would give you a whole new truckload of problems. And don't think negatively of yourself if you find opiates moderate your anxiety and depression, it's just what they do, what can I say - also Suboxone IS being used as a psychiatric drug in the "mood stabilizer" category now for people with intractable issues that are not helped by anything else. A modern, patient, informed and sympathetic physician or psychiatrist will understand this.

10-01-2009, 07:22 AM	#123 (permalink)
rainbow1 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 8	You will definately come up with the right mix EKAT...whatever that is. You need to talk with your doctor and tell him you are serious about quitting and what is the logical way to do that. I am on day 4.....but I person I know who alway has pain pills with him is coming over....This could be where I screw up. I'm praying for all of us...but EKAT...you hang in there hun!!!!

10-01-2009, 09:21 AM	#124 (permalink)
Ekat Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cambridge, Mass Posts: 115	I would like to do the Waismann Method rapid detox. I actually thought this up myself, and found that it was actually being done. But insurance won't pay for it and it costs $16,000. I am a nervous wreck right now. I can do almost nothing. I can't believe I fell into this hole. There seems like there's no way out. Furthermore, I have no support system. Both of my girls became angry with me because of my anxiety and left (God, I so needed them) and my ex is a psychiatrist who I met in college. We were both pre-med students. We both got into medical school, married the summer between college and medical school, and I got pregnant in November of that year. We decided that I would stay with our child, and he would go through medical school. 20 years later he divorced me, leaving me with no assets and a 20 year gap in my work history. When I first started the opiates, they seemed like a Godsend. I had a lot of energy (because they tamed the anxiety and panic) and started moving forward with my life. But the condition that I was being treated for with the opiates subsided, and I'm stuck with this horrible monkey on my back. I feel like I'm on a train to Hell. I have tried so hard to be a great wife and mother, and everyone complemented me on this, but after the divorce (and I BEGGED my husband not to go through with it) everything fell apart. I feel like I need a break -- and some loving care. Ekat

10-02-2009, 09:07 AM	#125 (permalink)
rainbow1 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 8	I am so sorry for this awful year you are having. Hopefully, you can taper off the drugs and get some of your life back slowly. It will be baby steps.... Horrible in someways but very fullfilling in others. I'm glad you are constantly thinking about your kids. This just proves you are still a great mother, you have lost your way and need to get back. You love them and want to move forward....It is ok to let go of someone who can't be the "one" for you. I know that must have been hard to let him go in light of everyting else you have been going through. When God closes a door he always opens a window....lets just go find your window. Don't be to hard on your self...take small baby steps. You can do it!!!

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