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odie123 · 08-17-2005, 07:30 AM

does any one know why people with history of narcotic abuse may not take fioricet or migranes??

cleanlady · 08-17-2005, 09:47 AM

I'm pretty sure its a narcotic !

abtchonamission · 08-17-2005, 09:49 AM

Fioricet contains codeine, I believe.

odie123 · 08-17-2005, 09:54 AM

it also says that it could cause depression...ok...i dont think i need anymore depression in my life...i guess i'll pass.....on that one...
what about tramadol?

Time4Change · 08-17-2005, 10:15 AM

Oooh! Noooo, stay away from Tramadol, too, Honey. It's baaaaad stuff. Doctors first started marketing it as non-addictive, so patients and recovering addicts were popping them like crazy, only to become addicted to those, too (Ultram) and the withdrawal is a mess; seizures, etc.

I'm also a migraine sufferer and I have amazing results from Maxalt. It's a rizatriptan benzoate (similar to Imitrex) and I take the 5 mg. orally disintegrating tablet. It works immediately on my migraines and after being a guinea pig for years and years (15-20 ish) I've found this is the most effective.

Good luck!

Blake · 08-17-2005, 11:11 AM

Fioricet contains Butalbital, tylenol and caffine. Butalbital is a barbituate. (taking too much of it will get you loaded)

abtchonamission · 08-17-2005, 12:39 PM

Butalbital! THAT was the name I was trying to think of! (I used to take fioricet for migraines, now I'm taking something else.) Thanks Blake, for correcting me.

Blake · 08-17-2005, 12:46 PM

Yeah I took it for migraines too, being the inquisitive junky I am, I reaserached it's "get me loaded" pontential when I got it perscribed.........sometimes I think I'm a walking PDR.

abtchonamission · 08-17-2005, 12:53 PM

LOL. I never researched it. They have me on amitryptilene (sp) for preventing the migraines, only had fioricet when I had one bad enough to land me in the ER - then they'd give me composine for the nausea (seems to get rid of the headache if you get rid of the nausea) and send me home with a couple of fioricet. All it did for me was make me get the nausea back.

**shockozulu** · 08-17-2005, 03:41 PM

That's what I'm hooked on-well same drug but with aspirin instead of the tylenol. It is nasty stuff to get clean off of and very addicting. It gives you a very nice high. Oh, trust me on that one!

Unless you are very closely watched by your doc, don't take this stuff!

BTW, there is capsule of fiorinal (that's the one I was on) that contains codiene as well as the straight tabs. I was on the tabs.

odie123 · 08-18-2005, 10:06 AM

i feel like numbing my head completely...my head hurts too bad...plus my fioricet does not have codeine. i am only addicted to opiates...i think i am going to have to give a try. yesturday i took too much tylenol which didnt do anything

Sugah · 08-18-2005, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odie123

i am only addicted to opiates...

hmm.....

Peace & Love,
Sugah

abtchonamission · 08-18-2005, 10:57 AM

odie,

Things that work for my migraines are soak in a hot bath, coffee, Advil Migraine, and rest. Especially in a dark, quiet room.

Blake · 08-18-2005, 11:06 AM

I got glasses and it cleared mine right up. I was getting them because of too much eye strain. When was the last time you had an eye exam? Maybe that might have something to do with it?

eddie z. · 08-18-2005, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odie123

i am only addicted to opiates...

To my way of thinking, there's no such thing as "only addicted to [insert drug name here]." I'm either an addict or I'm not. And a drug is a drug is a drug. I'm apt to abuse anything that changes the way I feel. I could easily have said "I am only addicted to opiates" because that was all I had withdrawal symptoms from. But I used to abuse the he*l out of some Fioricet, too. It is HIGHLY abusable, HIGHLY addictive, and dangerous to withdraw from. I sincerely hope you decided against it. No doc in his right mind with any knowledge of addiction would give an addict Fioricet.

Quote:

yesturday i took too much tylenol which didnt do anything

Except probably give you the headache you have today. It's what's known as an analgesic rebound headache and Fioricet can make it even worse. Believe me, I was in the same vicious cycle. Tell odie about rebound headaches, Alera. If you relax in a dark room or in a warm bath, the pain will pass. If you take something, you may feel better briefly, but regret it later, just like with opiates. And tramadol works just like an opiate as well. I would steer clear of both.

There are many safer options for an addict with migraines, odie. I'll be praying that you find one soon. Let us know how you are this evening, OK?

Love and hugs,
Eddie

**shockozulu** · 08-18-2005, 09:44 PM

Rebound headaches from Fiorinal/Fioricet...you mean those things that cause you to wake up in the morning feeling like a meat cleaver is running right down the middle of your head...and that's a good one...the worse ones are the ones that make you want a lobotomy from the throbbing of the front of your head...all the while you are worshiping the toilet.

Nasty things they are. Sometimes I couldn't even stand the sound of someone typing in the other room, much less them laughing at the TV two or three rooms away, as my senses were heightened and I wouldn't know when to expect to hear the noise.

Othertimes I would draw pictures of my head exploding or take the pen and color a page in black I felt so awful.

The worst part is I didn't know when my fiorinal would give me a rebound...until the next morning. I'd either be fine or in the black pit.

odie123 · 08-19-2005, 05:24 AM

well, i took it !! i was not being bery kind to my child and i had to do something...well...it got me too tired...and to make matters worse i could not sleep, but today i have no headache...i am feeling ok despite i could not sleep

i know, iknow...i am an addict yu give me anything that will change my view on life in a positive way and i am a goooo...i there!!!!

but this slepping shat does not make me very happy. i like to sleep!!

i have a baby (15 months)(she does not understand"mami is sick" all she wants is to crawl up my **s for a lack of a better word.... when i dont feel well...i feel very bad to not give her all of me..
i was waiting on a response from yu eddie!!! hope today is a better day, without so many regrets, more energy for the love of my life...
XXXOOO
odeya

odie123 · 08-19-2005, 07:43 AM

i dont know how yu can even fuction correctly on fioricet during the day...i was so confused....i was not mean to my baby girl , but i didnt have the energy to change her from her pijamas....uuufff...out in space..

eddie z. · 08-19-2005, 08:35 AM

((((odeya)))),
Glad your headache is gone! Yeah, the Fioricet has butalbital in it which makes you sleepy, but it also has caffeine which keeps you awake. Sounds like you found this out the hard way. I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers!

Love and hugs,
Eddie

**shockozulu** · 08-19-2005, 12:11 PM

Fiorinal/Fioricet doesn't keep you awake...oh you think the fact my bedtime moved up 6 hours when I cut my dose in half might have something to do with that? LOL

Alycia · 08-19-2005, 12:54 PM

dont worry, odie, we have pajama day at my house to,

Alycia · 08-19-2005, 01:00 PM

odie,
come to chat and talk to me

odie123 · 08-19-2005, 01:17 PM

i do knoe how to do that.....

Alycia · 08-19-2005, 01:22 PM

u where there but left to quickly, go to chat above forum put password and tada its me!!

alanis · 08-19-2005, 11:21 PM

Hi I was taking Ultram it is bacically the same thing as Fioricet they are not narcotics so at first when they came out they said they were non addicting but then they realized that they work like narcotic pain killers and that they were addicting.Beleive me they are I was addicted to ultram for over a year it was hell.

08-17-2005, 07:30 AM	#1 (permalink)
odie123 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: hotlanta Posts: 102	fioricet does any one know why people with history of narcotic abuse may not take fioricet or migranes??

08-17-2005, 09:49 AM	#3 (permalink)
abtchonamission Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: In the mountain air Posts: 1,345	Fioricet contains codeine, I believe. __________________ Faith... When you come to the end of all the light you know and you are about to step off into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing one of two things will happen: there will be something solid to stand on or you will be taught how to fly.

08-17-2005, 11:11 AM	#6 (permalink)
Blake I'm an addict. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hyde Park, NY Posts: 1,201	Fioricet contains Butalbital, tylenol and caffine. Butalbital is a barbituate. (taking too much of it will get you loaded) __________________ Warning: I'm a sick person so take any advice I may be spewing with a grain of salt, but it's what has worked for me, so far.

08-17-2005, 12:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
abtchonamission Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: In the mountain air Posts: 1,345	Butalbital! THAT was the name I was trying to think of! (I used to take fioricet for migraines, now I'm taking something else.) Thanks Blake, for correcting me. __________________ Faith... When you come to the end of all the light you know and you are about to step off into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing one of two things will happen: there will be something solid to stand on or you will be taught how to fly.

08-17-2005, 12:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
Blake I'm an addict. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hyde Park, NY Posts: 1,201	Yeah I took it for migraines too, being the inquisitive junky I am, I reaserached it's "get me loaded" pontential when I got it perscribed.........sometimes I think I'm a walking PDR. __________________ Warning: I'm a sick person so take any advice I may be spewing with a grain of salt, but it's what has worked for me, so far.

08-17-2005, 09:47 AM	#2 (permalink)
cleanlady Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: No man's land Posts: 32	I'm pretty sure its a narcotic !

08-17-2005, 09:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
odie123 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: hotlanta Posts: 102	it also says that it could cause depression...ok...i dont think i need anymore depression in my life...i guess i'll pass.....on that one... what about tramadol?

08-17-2005, 10:15 AM	#5 (permalink)
Time4Change NA Rocks! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Location Posts: 517	Oooh! Noooo, stay away from Tramadol, too, Honey. It's baaaaad stuff. Doctors first started marketing it as non-addictive, so patients and recovering addicts were popping them like crazy, only to become addicted to those, too (Ultram) and the withdrawal is a mess; seizures, etc. I'm also a migraine sufferer and I have amazing results from Maxalt. It's a rizatriptan benzoate (similar to Imitrex) and I take the 5 mg. orally disintegrating tablet. It works immediately on my migraines and after being a guinea pig for years and years (15-20 ish) I've found this is the most effective. Good luck!

08-17-2005, 12:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
abtchonamission Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: In the mountain air Posts: 1,345	LOL. I never researched it. They have me on amitryptilene (sp) for preventing the migraines, only had fioricet when I had one bad enough to land me in the ER - then they'd give me composine for the nausea (seems to get rid of the headache if you get rid of the nausea) and send me home with a couple of fioricet. All it did for me was make me get the nausea back. __________________ Faith... When you come to the end of all the light you know and you are about to step off into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing one of two things will happen: there will be something solid to stand on or you will be taught how to fly.

08-17-2005, 03:41 PM	#10 (permalink)
shockozulu Huntington's Disease Awareness Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Cook County, Ill Posts: 2,594	That's what I'm hooked on-well same drug but with aspirin instead of the tylenol. It is nasty stuff to get clean off of and very addicting. It gives you a very nice high. Oh, trust me on that one! Unless you are very closely watched by your doc, don't take this stuff! BTW, there is capsule of fiorinal (that's the one I was on) that contains codiene as well as the straight tabs. I was on the tabs.

08-18-2005, 10:06 AM	#11 (permalink)
odie123 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: hotlanta Posts: 102	my head is about to explode i feel like numbing my head completely...my head hurts too bad...plus my fioricet does not have codeine. i am only addicted to opiates...i think i am going to have to give a try. yesturday i took too much tylenol which didnt do anything

08-18-2005, 10:57 AM	#13 (permalink)
abtchonamission Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: In the mountain air Posts: 1,345	odie, Things that work for my migraines are soak in a hot bath, coffee, Advil Migraine, and rest. Especially in a dark, quiet room. __________________ Faith... When you come to the end of all the light you know and you are about to step off into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing one of two things will happen: there will be something solid to stand on or you will be taught how to fly.

08-18-2005, 11:06 AM	#14 (permalink)
Blake I'm an addict. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hyde Park, NY Posts: 1,201	I got glasses and it cleared mine right up. I was getting them because of too much eye strain. When was the last time you had an eye exam? Maybe that might have something to do with it? __________________ Warning: I'm a sick person so take any advice I may be spewing with a grain of salt, but it's what has worked for me, so far.

08-18-2005, 09:44 PM	#16 (permalink)
shockozulu Huntington's Disease Awareness Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Cook County, Ill Posts: 2,594	Rebound headaches from Fiorinal/Fioricet...you mean those things that cause you to wake up in the morning feeling like a meat cleaver is running right down the middle of your head...and that's a good one...the worse ones are the ones that make you want a lobotomy from the throbbing of the front of your head...all the while you are worshiping the toilet. Nasty things they are. Sometimes I couldn't even stand the sound of someone typing in the other room, much less them laughing at the TV two or three rooms away, as my senses were heightened and I wouldn't know when to expect to hear the noise. Othertimes I would draw pictures of my head exploding or take the pen and color a page in black I felt so awful. The worst part is I didn't know when my fiorinal would give me a rebound...until the next morning. I'd either be fine or in the black pit. __________________ Copyright © 2005 - 2012 Shockozulu

08-19-2005, 05:24 AM	#17 (permalink)
odie123 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: hotlanta Posts: 102	well, i took it !! i was not being bery kind to my child and i had to do something...well...it got me too tired...and to make matters worse i could not sleep, but today i have no headache...i am feeling ok despite i could not sleep i know, iknow...i am an addict yu give me anything that will change my view on life in a positive way and i am a goooo...i there!!!! but this slepping shat does not make me very happy. i like to sleep!! i have a baby (15 months)(she does not understand"mami is sick" all she wants is to crawl up my **s for a lack of a better word.... when i dont feel well...i feel very bad to not give her all of me.. i was waiting on a response from yu eddie!!! hope today is a better day, without so many regrets, more energy for the love of my life... XXXOOO odeya

08-19-2005, 01:00 PM	#22 (permalink)
Alycia help123 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: winona, Mn Posts: 261	odie, come to chat and talk to me __________________ Please God grant me salvation, and give me the motivation,to stop using, and quick abusing, my mind, body, and soul.

08-19-2005, 07:43 AM	#18 (permalink)
odie123 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: hotlanta Posts: 102	not good when youhave a responsability i dont know how yu can even fuction correctly on fioricet during the day...i was so confused....i was not mean to my baby girl , but i didnt have the energy to change her from her pijamas....uuufff...out in space..

08-19-2005, 08:35 AM	#19 (permalink)
eddie z. No expectations! Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 7,912	((((odeya)))), Glad your headache is gone! Yeah, the Fioricet has butalbital in it which makes you sleepy, but it also has caffeine which keeps you awake. Sounds like you found this out the hard way. I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers! Love and hugs, Eddie

08-19-2005, 12:11 PM	#20 (permalink)
shockozulu Huntington's Disease Awareness Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Cook County, Ill Posts: 2,594	Fiorinal/Fioricet doesn't keep you awake...oh you think the fact my bedtime moved up 6 hours when I cut my dose in half might have something to do with that? LOL __________________ Copyright © 2005 - 2012 Shockozulu

08-19-2005, 12:54 PM	#21 (permalink)
Alycia help123 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: winona, Mn Posts: 261	dont worry, odie, we have pajama day at my house to, __________________ Please God grant me salvation, and give me the motivation,to stop using, and quick abusing, my mind, body, and soul.

08-19-2005, 01:17 PM	#23 (permalink)
odie123 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: hotlanta Posts: 102	i do knoe how to do that.....

08-19-2005, 01:22 PM	#24 (permalink)
Alycia help123 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: winona, Mn Posts: 261	u where there but left to quickly, go to chat above forum put password and tada its me!! __________________ Please God grant me salvation, and give me the motivation,to stop using, and quick abusing, my mind, body, and soul.

08-19-2005, 11:21 PM	#25 (permalink)
alanis Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: san antonio texas Posts: 5	I know!!!!!!!!!!! Hi I was taking Ultram it is bacically the same thing as Fioricet they are not narcotics so at first when they came out they said they were non addicting but then they realized that they work like narcotic pain killers and that they were addicting.Beleive me they are I was addicted to ultram for over a year it was hell.

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