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Old 08-19-2005, 11:57 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Hi I was taking Ultram it is bacically the same thing as Fioricet they are not narcotics so at first when they came out they said they were non addicting but then they realized that they work like narcotic pain killers and that they were addicting.Beleive me they are I was addicted to ultram for over a year it was hell.
Ultram is really bad stuff, IMO. From the US Dept. of Justice:

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Although the company initially claimed that this substance produced only very weak narcotic effects, recent data demonstrates that opioid activity is the overriding contributor to the drug’s pharmacological activity. Because of inadequate product labeling and lack of established abuse potential, many physicians felt this drug was perfectly safe to prescribe to recovering narcotic addicts and to known narcotic abusers. As a consequence, a large number of reports of abuse and dependence have been received.
http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/dr...n/tramadol.htm

Fiorinal is not an opiod but very addicting. It is old (1920's). It is also available in a narcotic form: Fiorinal w/Codiene #3.






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Old 08-20-2005, 09:12 AM   #27 (permalink)
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How's it going with the taper these days? Minus 8 days!!! I'm still really excited that you're doing this! Keep us posted!!

alanis,
Alera is right. Plain Fiorinal/Fioricet contains butalbital which is a barbiturate rather than an opioid/narcotic. Actually I prefer not to use the term "narcotic" because it means so many different things to different people. Now tramadol, while not chemically an opioid, functions just like one in the body (as you know) so it may as well be considered one.

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ok, I think i lost my post somehow that i put here earlier. Anyways, isnt ultram or ultracet like darvacet, that is what I was on. I got very addicted to it, and it is the door to other things.
 
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Ultram is just tramadol, an opioid-like drug. Ultracet is tramadol plus acetaminophen (Tylenol). And Darvocet is propoxyphene, a weak opioid, with acetaminophen. The "cet" part of the names means it has the Tylenol component. Like FioriCET has the acetaminophen in it, too.

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Ultram is just tramadol, an opioid-like drug. Ultracet is tramadol plus acetaminophen (Tylenol). And Darvocet is propoxyphene, a weak opioid, with acetaminophen. The "cet" part of the names means it has the Tylenol component. Like FioriCET has the acetaminophen in it, too.

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Or as I've explained it to other addict friends:

PercodAN contains asprin
PercoCET contains tylenol.

That usually explains it to them
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Yes, that's yet another example. Thanks, Alera!

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