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Old 03-27-2012, 08:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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new here...day 3 off oxycodone

Hi folks! I am on day 3, hour 51 to be specific, since my last dose of oxycodone...i had started slow about 4 years ago with the addiction taking hold around 3 years ago...i was using typically anywhere from 60-150mg a day, depending on supply and mood...and in the last 4 or 5 months i had started snorting it rather than just popping them...Friday I was running out and had that same familiar panic set in and it just pissed me off...heres this addiction taking my time with my boyfriend and with my kids away...its draining my bank account...its immobilizing me so that i can't just go have a good time without being sure i have pills...DONE!! So..Sunday was the worst even though i had a dose, allbeit a small one, in the early morning...by Sunday night it was like death walking...or not walking as the case may be...i couldn't even look at my phone to send a text message and i just puked and puked all day...yesterday i called in to work, still wasnt feeling good, still puking, still unable to eat, but slightly more alive...today it is getting a bit better...took one more day off work...i've had a couple saltines and a peice of dry toast...first thing id eaten since saturday night...even had a smoke this morning which, while i realize is an adddiction too, was nice to feel like i could do that normal activity without a pill...sleep is really tough but i was able to get a couple hours last night thanks to immodium and unisom...i feel like im going to make it...about how long shuold i expect these withdrawals to last? anyone? am i going to start to feel really better soon?

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Good for you to committ to ending the addiction. For me the physical was bad through Day 5. It started getting better each day and although it takes a few weeks to get the energy back you will feel better. This also takes a strong committment not to relapse and you will need support. NA has meetings and a Step Program.

For me my church was a life line and my pastor counseled me. A good drug counselor will be helpful. Post often and read through lots of aids and threads on this board. You are going to need to heal your brain and your thinking process needs lots of positive information and support. This is a hard journey but it is the most satisfying and your life will take on a new meaning with joy, happiness, and respect. You are off to a good start and you can do this. As soon as possible add exercise to your recovery. You won't feel like it but do it anyway. It really does help. Praying for you.
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi Carbie! Welcome to the family Glad to hear you're so adamant about this! You might have a few more rough days to get through....was about a week and a half for me....though I got sick from it also, so maybe longer than it should have been. I'm a little over a month out, sleep patterns aren't prefect - but Melatonin has made a huge difference, fatigue still at times - but changing my diet to eating healthy and taking vitamins also makes a huge difference, and my energy levels fluctuate - but I've found that I feel much better during and after working out lately. You just have to be mentally prepared to ride it ALL out, no matter what you're feeling each day, and try to focus even on the good little things....like that you didn't take a pill, that you don't have to fear running out, that you don't need to chase more, that you will have money in your pockets again.....there's a lot to hold onto in recovery, as long as you make a conscious effort to do so. I found myself just getting happy in those first few days, as bad as I looked, to just see my own reflection in the mirror and say "You are clean...you didn't take anything today, you will be healthy soon" - and it always put a smile on my face. A couple days in and you are almost there, even if you have a few more bad days, you can tough it out and get off that roller coaster and enjoy your family and life again!! Good luck and keep us posted.
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Congratulations and welcome to SR. Most of the physical symptoms will subside by day six or seven. I have a little over a month clean, and the thing I am fighting the most is the fatique. My sleep has returned to almost normal, but I still get tired throughout the day. It's not bad though-no sickness or anything, just feeling tired. Good luck!
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:12 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Thank you everyone =) day 4 today and I'm on my way to work...having stomache issues soon, I think from just not eating in three days now, and I've got some chills coming back into play...but, I was able to sleep a little last night so...still making progress, right?? This is my first day of work without a pill in over 3 years...kinda nervous...got some psychologic hurdles to get thru today but...I can do it...and once today is over I know I don't need a pill to be a productive employee....
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:26 AM   #6 (permalink)
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@carbie That's awesome! You're doing good. I found in the first couple days a little Immodium and some light, dry foods - a muffin, bagel, toast, bananas, nuts - stuff like that which won't cause a lot of acid helped. It was strange for me because I changed my whole diet and so my stomach was hit with a double whammy when I switched from Mighty Taco and Twinkies to fruits and veggies and unprocessed meals Let us know how Day 4 goes, good luck!
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Lol that's so funny you say that because I thought all pill addicts were supposed to be skinny and not eating...and that was NOT me...I gained weight when I started using all the time...found I was up later at night and would crave junk food during those hours...just one of those misconceptions I had, I think, in order to lie to myself.....ya know "eating kills my buzz, but I still eat, so I must not be an addict"....so ridiculous now, but its true.... anyhow, day 4 went okay...had to drag thru work a little by the end of the day and went in with a feeling sure I wouldn't make it all the way to 530...but I did! Got some sleep last night...I'm hittin the unisom pretty hard tho to make that happen...think that's okay for a couple days? Didn't have to get in a hot tub before bed for the first time so that's an improvement....day 5 today...can't believe I'm this far....which isn't far at all really, I guess, but it feels like I've come such a long way....every w!d symptom I still have now seems minor and manageable when I think back to day 1 and 2
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@Carbie Are you kidding? 5 days is great! And for anyone who has ever detoxed from opiates knows just how loooong it seems to take to get through each hour and day. It does speed up once the symptoms are off your mind and your days level out. You're doing great. I don't think there's a problem with the Unisom personally, though I've never used it. So long as you're not becoming dependant on that and it's only when needed, I don't see why not. Congrats on 5 days....you got this.
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Carbie, I think it is wonderful you have 5 entire drug-free days behind you! I know that I started to physically feel better after day 6 without percocet and now I'm at day 17, dealing with business end of the mental/emotional stuff.

I've been using an OTC sleep aid. Every night for a week and then every other night. It helps tremendously. The nights I don't take it aren't bad at all....just takes me a little longer to fall asleep.

You are doing great and I am truly happy for your progress....
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Carbie,

Great to see you doing so well....Hope you have some Immodium at home cause that goes with the stomach issues. Welcome to the forum. After day 5 and 6 you start to feel a little better. Stick with it...each day your brain gets less fogged.
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As a few people pointed out, everyone is different, but I would feel up and down, but day 5 was always the worse. Day 6-8 the RLS, fatigue, insomnia, anxiety was bad, but after day 8 it really lightened up. I'm also in a detox myself but I'm on day 13 and can walk up and down my stairs without taking a break and my "sleep sweats" stopped, but my sleeping is still messed up so I just decided to take it where I could get it (small bits here and there is better than NOTHING). Thankful to be done vomiting because I seem to get that REALLY BAD, even when I just missed a dose when I was actively taking my RX.. You are so lucky to be able to have time off work. Knowing this won't be an option every time, please try your hardest to make those days count. I'll say a prayer for you.
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I recently went through the same thing. I'm on Day 8. The first 5 were pure hell. I took my last pill last Friday morning. I spent the weekend on the couch, unable to eat, and basically couldn't do much but go back and forth from the bathroom to my bed or couch.

After Day 5, it gets a whole lot better. This is my 2nd time in relapsing. It was a bit easier (if you can imagine that), because I have been taking specific vitamins for months in preparation for this. I relapsed due to a relapse in my pain from Crohn's disease.

I also (quite stupidly) - and this is for the ladies - decided to detox at the end of my cycle. It came early, on Saturday, and adding to the pain and torture of oxy w/d's, was horrid pain from menstrual cramping. Absolutely hell.

Because I have an autoimmune disease, my internal organs and systems are more sensitive than others. I was taking the oxy's for energy, but when that runs out, you have no where to turn but the docs. The oxy's did a number on my endocrine system, adrenal system, and my hormones.

There is a study - I'll post it later - that shows oxy and opiate abuse reduces testosterone in both women and men. Ladies, we need it to feel energized, overall good feeling of well being, and a good libido.

I went through months of testing to find out my adrenals were fatigued too and have to take T3 - a hormone responsible for energy.

So, being an addict isn't just about getting off the drug, and dealing with the emotions and depression you get afterwards, it literally eats away at your body. Please, please, don't let it get to that point.

I'm only 40, and my oxy abuse ran my testosterone levels down to immeasurable levels. I went to a well known hormone specialist who told me I had the testosterone levels of "a dead person".

Also because of the drying nature of oxy's - alot of oxy abusers get constipated - it seized up my entire small intestine, and was completely impacted. I was in the hospital for several days and had several laxative/enema flushes. Your small intestine is where you absorb all your vitamins, food, nutrients, and if nothing is getting through, you become mal-nourished like me. I couldn't hold anything down. They had to IV me with fluids, food, pain medicine, and prednisone to get the inflammation down due to the impaction.

Because my energy levels were non-existant even as my oxy abuse escalated, I would fall asleep at the wheel and had several close calls crashing. I fell asleep at work all of a sudden and almost lost my job. It gave me narcolepsy. I was put on Adderall temporarily until the oxy gets out of my system (usually a week or 10 days). It was due to adrenal fatigue, and my body saying, "We're not going to produce any thyroid hormones because you are getting it from your oxy's." After awhile the oxy's didn't work, and I didn't have the funds to get more.

When you are in the hospital in critical condition - and have damaged your gastrointestional tract, your endocrine system, your adrenals, and severly screwed up your hormones (never mind your brain neurotransmitters - serotonin, dopamine, nonepherine), you realize those little blue pills that you would spend your last dime on, are now responsible for your damaged health.

My advice: do whatever it takes to nourish your systems - take vitamins, green powdered drinks, eat soups (so they are not too harsh on your stomach), take immodium as needed, read every story on here, get a doctor's checks up for your thyroid and hormones (especially testosterone), pray, keep busy (as much as your energy allows), and know it will get better, one day at a time. And very important: try to eliminate stress as much as possible.

You won't be yourself for awhile, as your body has to relearn to make all the hormones and neurotransmitters it was given a vacation when your oxy's took over. Be kind and patient with yourself. Try to exercise and laugh...that will help release endorphins to help you feel better.

I wish you the very best. It WILL get better. I'm a little over a week and I feel 100% better. My energy is still a huge issue, but slowly getting better. And it will for you too.

I pray that you get through these w/d's as fast as possible. And I pray you understand that addiction really is a matter of life and death. You choose Life. I'm proud of you.
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Here is one article: Low Testo Opiates.

I have to take specially compounded testosterone cream for the next 6 weeks, and then have my blood levels re-tested. I'm a woman, and not to have a libido due to oxy's, as well as massive mood swings - I almost lost my best friend/boyfriend. Thankfully, he now knows and understands and we are working through this together.

And for you ladies in the 35-50 range: opiate abuse can throw you directly into perimenopause. Not fun. I'm 40, and am going through the whole gamut of menopausal effects. I wish I never picked up an oxy pill in my life. Now I have to pay the price.

Please learn from my experience.
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I can't add to the good advice you've received except to say that I'm dealing with a similar problem. Working towards day 5 with no hydrocodone and it's been the worst day in terms of depression.

Nowhere to go but up I guess. Hang in there and things will invariably improve within a few days.
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Hi everyone! Thanks for all the well wishes, positive energy and good info...today made day 9 and I feel so lucky because I feel FANTASTIC! I don't have a lot of energy but I have a huge desire to DO STUFF so I'm making myself get moving and finding that I really am enjoyinng the doind...the living life...used to always tell myself that id wait til I had a big bunch of pills to do anything...from housework to going for a walk to damn near anything...then, pills would come around and id do a few and while I had energy I had no motivation to do anything except smoke cigarettes, play games oon my phone and watch tv...but then as id run low on pills the excuse to not do would be that I was low on pills and not feeling as good...round and round I went never really doing anything but the day to day that HAD to be done....now, I feel alive again...and happy...I look outside and I SEE things...I have been going for walks, taking my kids to the park, cranking thru housework...and at times crying endlessly over the 4 years I lost that I didn't realize I was losing...and then crying from joy at the fact that I get another chance to do those things....being able to dye eggs with my kids without needing to go to the bathroom and do a pill first...and not spending time away running...or even worse dragging them along for hour plus rides sometimes...to get pills... I am really so happy =) id be a bold face liar if I didn't say that I don't want a ppill atleast 10 times a day...and at night especially because I'm still really restless until I fall asleep...but I don't want one enough to trade everything I've just gained...there is no way a pill makes me feel anywhere near as good as my son hugging me telling me how happy he is that I'm not sick anymore or tired and that I want to play now...I promised him id never be sick like that again...never... the ugly thoughts of addiction creep in and I tell myself, well maybe one day ill get just like 4 or 5 and then only do them that weekend and then stop...but I know that's not true and I know that's not what I want so, I just tell myself I'm not ready for that today so don't even think about it...as long as I do that every day, then ill be fine...one day at a time...rings so true to me now... for all those struggling thru withdrawals...its hell...there's no way to sugar coat it...but at under 2 weeks out it was worth every second already...I can't remember the last time I was so happy =) thank you all for your support past, present and future...my internet is down at the moment so I'm on my phone, which is why I was mia a few days, but I'm going to try and start posting more too...start paying it forward so to speak and helping myself along the way...now, I'm off for my nightly stroll...trying to get it thru to my restless legs that they should be tired at night when I am too LOL
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Hi everyone! Thanks for all the well wishes, positive energy and good info...today made day 9 and I feel so lucky because I feel FANTASTIC! I don't have a lot of energy but I have a huge desire to DO STUFF so I'm making myself get moving and finding that I really am enjoyinng the doind...the living life...used to always tell myself that id wait til I had a big bunch of pills to do anything...from housework to going for a walk to damn near anything...then, pills would come around and id do a few and while I had energy I had no motivation to do anything except smoke cigarettes, play games oon my phone and watch tv...but then as id run low on pills the excuse to not do would be that I was low on pills and not feeling as good...round and round I went never really doing anything but the day to day that HAD to be done....now, I feel alive again...and happy...I look outside and I SEE things...I have been going for walks, taking my kids to the park, cranking thru housework...and at times crying endlessly over the 4 years I lost that I didn't realize I was losing...and then crying from joy at the fact that I get another chance to do those things....being able to dye eggs with my kids without needing to go to the bathroom and do a pill first...and not spending time away running...or even worse dragging them along for hour plus rides sometimes...to get pills... I am really so happy =) id be a bold face liar if I didn't say that I don't want a ppill atleast 10 times a day...and at night especially because I'm still really restless until I fall asleep...but I don't want one enough to trade everything I've just gained...there is no way a pill makes me feel anywhere near as good as my son hugging me telling me how happy he is that I'm not sick anymore or tired and that I want to play now...I promised him id never be sick like that again...never... the ugly thoughts of addiction creep in and I tell myself, well maybe one day ill get just like 4 or 5 and then only do them that weekend and then stop...but I know that's not true and I know that's not what I want so, I just tell myself I'm not ready for that today so don't even think about it...as long as I do that every day, then ill be fine...one day at a time...rings so true to me now... for all those struggling thru withdrawals...its hell...there's no way to sugar coat it...but at under 2 weeks out it was worth every second already...I can't remember the last time I was so happy =) thank you all for your support past, present and future...my internet is down at the moment so I'm on my phone, which is why I was mia a few days, but I'm going to try and start posting more too...start paying it forward so to speak and helping myself along the way...now, I'm off for my nightly stroll...trying to get it thru to my restless legs that they should be tired at night when I am too LOL
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I am almost a month off of MS Contin for 15 yrs......It's ganna take a week to feel almost normal but by week two you should feel much better, good even. You have made it through the worst part. I took 10 hot baths with epson salts a day when withdrawing, helps with cramping and muscle aches. YOU CAN DO THIS....
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