Ex-Adderall abuser - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information

KyleChaos · 11-05-2009, 02:50 PM

Earlier this year I was abusing Adderall BIGTIME. I wouldn't take it daily, I was using a friend's prescription and was even abusing the 30mg XR release. I started out taking one or two on weekend nights every few weeks, then it increased as a bi-monthly cycle. A few times I even took 5-6 30mg XR in one night.

I came across an older post about adderall abuse on this forum..

and what interested me was what the user "Christian" said about taking L-tyrosine and DL-phenylalanine.

"hmm, that stuff can caus significant changes in your brain. wow, 120mg! i though 3x30mg was MAX dosage per day, how were you able to get this much from your doctor?

probably i reccomend L-Tyrosine, and DL-Phenylalanine, also cardio exercise, maybe also Idebenone.

ya, that stuff is basically 4 different types of amphetamines, although in controlled dosages ... why did you stop taking it? did you consider tapering off?"

Does adderall drain these things from your brain? I just wanted to know if taking these pills would help my ol' brain return to complete normalcy...

I have almost returned to normal since my ridiculous adderall abuse, but I still feel a little bit off, just wanted to know if taking those would help.

Cherybaby66 · 11-05-2009, 05:53 PM

This is an inquiry that is really best discussed with your doctor. He prescribed you the original medication. I am certain he will help you with those questions if you are honest with him about your drug use.

KyleChaos · 11-05-2009, 09:57 PM

Well I detest my doctor, or I would.
I was hoping someone on this forum had knowledge of the two substances, oh well.

It's vitamins..it can't hurt to try them.

**Dee74** · 11-06-2009, 01:41 AM

Hi Kyle

Might be time to find a new Dr.?

D

Wolfchild · 11-09-2009, 06:18 AM

Vintersemestre · 11-09-2009, 07:20 AM

As well versed as we all know that all doctors are on the fine particulars of pharmacotherapy I would suggest you ask a pharmacist if you want scientific facts and not opinions. I'd tell you something but I don't know enough about the neurodynamics of amphetamine abuse and recovery to feel like I'm giving you an informed opinion.

I can however comfortably tell you that it is not at all like taking "four different amphetamines in controlled doses" at all. The hysteria people will raise about absolutely anything these days just so they have something to do amazes me.

Mark75 · 11-09-2009, 12:45 PM

I have experience with stimulants.

Not all of the forms of amphetamines in Adderall are active... they just change how the body metabolizes the active forms (isomers) so it lasts longer....

As far as returning to normal... My opinion is that to return to normal you just stop taking them.... yea there is tyrosine, caffeine, ephedrine, yohimbine, vitamins.... but you are just trying to replace the effect of the stimulant by taking them.... not get back to normal.

My 2 cents.

Mark

KyleChaos · 11-09-2009, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cubile75

I have experience with stimulants.

Not all of the forms of amphetamines in Adderall are active... they just change how the body metabolizes the active forms (isomers) so it lasts longer....

As far as returning to normal... My opinion is that to return to normal you just stop taking them.... yea there is tyrosine, caffeine, ephedrine, yohimbine, vitamins.... but you are just trying to replace the effect of the stimulant by taking them.... not get back to normal.

My 2 cents.

Mark

I'm not trying to replace the effect at all, I was just thinking that it helped to replace something that was drained from my brain while I was on it..lol.

Mark75 · 11-09-2009, 02:01 PM

Hey, I've been there... trying to feel normal after stopping long term stimulant use... so if I sounded judgemental, I didn't mean to... I certainly tried a few things to make the transition easier...

I should have just said that I felt like I was just trying to replace the effect and not conclude that YOU were doing that...

Mark

KyleChaos · 11-09-2009, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cubile75

Hey, I've been there... trying to feel normal after stopping long term stimulant use... so if I sounded judgemental, I didn't mean to... I certainly tried a few things to make the transition easier...

I should have just said that I felt like I was just trying to replace the effect and not conclude that YOU were doing that...

Mark

Excellent, because I'm not.
I'm just taking vitamin supplements I've read a few different places can be good after nearly destroying my brain! haha

11-05-2009, 02:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
KyleChaos Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4	Ex-Adderall abuser Earlier this year I was abusing Adderall BIGTIME. I wouldn't take it daily, I was using a friend's prescription and was even abusing the 30mg XR release. I started out taking one or two on weekend nights every few weeks, then it increased as a bi-monthly cycle. A few times I even took 5-6 30mg XR in one night. I came across an older post about adderall abuse on this forum.. and what interested me was what the user "Christian" said about taking L-tyrosine and DL-phenylalanine. "hmm, that stuff can caus significant changes in your brain. wow, 120mg! i though 3x30mg was MAX dosage per day, how were you able to get this much from your doctor? probably i reccomend L-Tyrosine, and DL-Phenylalanine, also cardio exercise, maybe also Idebenone. ya, that stuff is basically 4 different types of amphetamines, although in controlled dosages ... why did you stop taking it? did you consider tapering off?" Does adderall drain these things from your brain? I just wanted to know if taking these pills would help my ol' brain return to complete normalcy... I have almost returned to normal since my ridiculous adderall abuse, but I still feel a little bit off, just wanted to know if taking those would help.

11-05-2009, 05:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
Cherybaby66 crazy vampire addict Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: just north of hell. Posts: 425	This is an inquiry that is really best discussed with your doctor. He prescribed you the original medication. I am certain he will help you with those questions if you are honest with him about your drug use. __________________ blackbird singing in the dead of night... take these broken wings and learn to fly. all your life, you were only waiting for this moment to arrive. ~ The Beatles

11-06-2009, 01:41 AM	#4 (permalink)
Dee74 Forum Leader Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Seas Posts: 16,488	Hi Kyle Might be time to find a new Dr.? D __________________ May you trust God that you are exactly where you are meant to be. May you not forget the infinite possibilities that are born of faith. May you use those gifts that you have received and pass on the love that has been given to you.

11-09-2009, 06:18 AM	#5 (permalink)
Wolfchild Disposable Hero Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Being, ME Posts: 3,435 Blog Entries: 3	__________________ Any clean addict is a miracle and keeping the miracle alive is an ongoing process of awareness, surrender, and growth

11-09-2009, 12:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
Mark75 September 14, 2008 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: East of Eden Posts: 2,729	I have experience with stimulants. Not all of the forms of amphetamines in Adderall are active... they just change how the body metabolizes the active forms (isomers) so it lasts longer.... As far as returning to normal... My opinion is that to return to normal you just stop taking them.... yea there is tyrosine, caffeine, ephedrine, yohimbine, vitamins.... but you are just trying to replace the effect of the stimulant by taking them.... not get back to normal. My 2 cents. Mark __________________ If all you've got to live for is what you've left behind... Get yourself a powder charge and seal that silver mine.... Robert Hunter

11-05-2009, 09:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
KyleChaos Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4	Well I detest my doctor, or I would. I was hoping someone on this forum had knowledge of the two substances, oh well. It's vitamins..it can't hurt to try them.

11-09-2009, 07:20 AM	#6 (permalink)
Vintersemestre Mysteria Magica Maxima Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 842 Blog Entries: 5	As well versed as we all know that all doctors are on the fine particulars of pharmacotherapy I would suggest you ask a pharmacist if you want scientific facts and not opinions. I'd tell you something but I don't know enough about the neurodynamics of amphetamine abuse and recovery to feel like I'm giving you an informed opinion. I can however comfortably tell you that it is not at all like taking "four different amphetamines in controlled doses" at all. The hysteria people will raise about absolutely anything these days just so they have something to do amazes me.

11-09-2009, 02:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
Mark75 September 14, 2008 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: East of Eden Posts: 2,729	Hey, I've been there... trying to feel normal after stopping long term stimulant use... so if I sounded judgemental, I didn't mean to... I certainly tried a few things to make the transition easier... I should have just said that I felt like I was just trying to replace the effect and not conclude that YOU were doing that... Mark __________________ If all you've got to live for is what you've left behind... Get yourself a powder charge and seal that silver mine.... Robert Hunter

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