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| Guest Join Date: Apr 2008
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| I slipped today. Depression is the pits! Im having flashbacks today of my past, and trying to let go of all the regrets I have. I said some prayers, I always get depressed getting them out of my head and writing, that is why I have quit therapy in the past. Things got too painful. Change is good though, Im growing a bit everyday. Honesty is hard for me. just wanted to share with everyone the day im having. tangerine13 |
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| Waiting For Engines Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: brooklyn, new york
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Do you remember all of the supportive posts you've made to me over the past couple of weeks? You are a terrific person, and I have found that we addicts are so much harder on ourselves then we are on others. Now, I am not saying that you are hard on yourself or not, but I would look at this depression issue more indepth, either through talking with a significant other or revisiting the idea of speaking to a therapist. Maybe the one you previously had, was not the right one. Finally, in my opinion, there is ALWAYS a reason behind these behaviors of ours'. Do you have a 12 step program in your life? I just do not remember if you said so in prior posts. If you do not, may I suggest finding out where an NA or AA meeting is and go! I do think that you are doing the positive action by posting it here. Yet, my feeling is that one really needs a place where there are others like you to share this experience with. I am here for you, also. You came on and helped me a whole bunch and a very wise man once said that "one addict helping another".... I am not saying anymore about those...uhm...steps you need to climb every so often! But, one thing. Don't destroy the whole week over this, which is why I posted my slip to the board!
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| Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: cape cod
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Aw, I was one of those readers. Sometimes I come across a post that I just have to step away from to think of an answer. Plus, I think regrets probably touch a lot of people a little too deeply here. I've learned that what I've done in the past is just that. In the past. That's where it should stay. I can't regret the things I've done, just try to learn from my mistakes. |
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| Large Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: La
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regret almost killed me. it still bothers me to this day but there ain't a whole lot i can do about it. getting depressed over it only makes it worse. i just try to put it outta my head and move forward the best i can. don't let it consume you. leave it where it belongs...back there in the past.
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| Guest Join Date: Apr 2008
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Thank You everyone! I was having a mental health day yesterday! Im sure regrets do touch a lot of ppl deeply here. thats why I posted about them, Im not sure how to just deal with them and let them go that easily. I pray and write in a journal, for now thats all I know to let them go. ((ksos)) NO, I dont go to meetings right now. I have a huge fear of speaking in a group, I know I need to face it, and just do it, I have before in aa, so I know I can do it again. Its time for me to work a program. I dont know if aa is right for me. I went to meetings for a long time, and always used after I went to one. Church and being around sober ppl has helped me most in the past. I do believe in the 12 steps and GOD. The social worker at pt is looking into a church for some therapy because my insurance only pays a minimal amount for counseling. (very minimal) I have a ton of material on how to work the steps from the many rehabs I have been to. Time to dig them out!!! I really need to get some of the secrets out that I have. They are making me crazy! lol..... ccgirl, Yes the past is the past, but I believe to move forward, we do need to understand it so we can change our behaviors we learned from the past. thanks to everyone! tangerine13 thanks again tangerine |
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| Forum Leader Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dallas, Ga. USA
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Some post have many red numbers as they are checked out by spiders. Spiders are search engines that can not reply. I don't recall any threads who had 60 replies quickly. Please look at the dates .before you get upset. I rarely post here as I am busy dealing with issues of alcoholism. I can tell you this... depression is why I started AA. When I finished AA Steps 4 & 5 my guilt and remorse vanished. I do hope you find answers recovery rocks!
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| Waiting For Engines Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: brooklyn, new york
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Hi Tangerine! I used to feel that several members of SR (many are no longer posting here) were very emphatic about making meetings when I first joined up in 2003 and I resented it. I know that I have done a 180 since that time and I probably mention NA in 98% of my posts, since it saved my life and continues to provide me with a sober network, for many people have not used in decades. If I offer NA as my ESH, please do not feel that you need to explain your feelings about not wanting to attend at this time. It is just a suggestion which I always offer based on my own experience. I am also aware that there are flaws in NA that result in many people not wanting to be a part of the forum. NA or AA are not treatment modalities, rather, they are programs that offer something that many feel is very important. One question. I never felt that I had to speak in a meeting--but I suppose that if you are referring to the introduction piece, I understand. Maybe you can try NA? I actually do not know your DOC, but am assuming it is alcohol if you have went to AA... If you are interested in counseling but cannot afford it, I can offer a piece of advice in this matter, but only if you want it. "PM" me if you want this advise in confidence, but I cannot tell you how to PM, LOL! I just know that others have been able to do this. It is a sad reality about insurance coverage for counseling being so low these days... Feel better!
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| Waiting For Engines Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: brooklyn, new york
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I just noticed that everyone has a "PM" button on the lower right side of the "reply box" except for Ksos.... This is very odd????
__________________ Ksos "If Enough people Call You A Duck, You Better Start Quacking." Last edited by ksos; 04-23-2008 at 08:34 AM. Reason: Just a little "off-topic" question, sorry~~ |
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| Om, Aum, Ohm... Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Punxsutawney/Pittsburgh
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No, it's not odd, unless you're in the habit of private messaging yourself Peace & Love, Sugah
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Ksos, The only reason I went to aa is because in my town, the members of na do not have a lot of clean time. I think the person with the longest clean time was 6 months. I love the na book though. My drug of choice has always been opiates,benzo's, and marijuana. However I drank heavily in my teenage years! I believe either program works just as well if you want to get clean ya know? have a good day tangerine |
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| Waiting For Engines Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: brooklyn, new york
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__________________ Ksos "If Enough people Call You A Duck, You Better Start Quacking." | |
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| Waiting For Engines Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: brooklyn, new york
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Hey Tang... I since changed my settings, as I did receive a message from you. Please try again since I had to first add you as a contact/friend, which then allows for your emails to get through. I'll check back in a bit.... K- | |
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Hi peachy, Im doing well today, thanks for asking. Yes, the past is the past. I have heard from MANY MANY therapists we should examine our past so we can change our behaviors that we learned from our past in order to get healthy. I have so much I need to get off my chest, things I have never talked about with anyone, and its eating me up inside. Im getting there, I just found a new therapist, one I am comfortable with, and can trust with the issues I have from sexual abuse. I have many self destructive behaviors from these issues. The more I work on them, the healthier I will become. Our past shapes our future, and there are many things I need to change about myself. ONE DAY AT A TIME! WISH YOU WELL! TANGERINE13 |
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| Community Greeter Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Atlanta
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(((Tangerine))) I'm glad you're feeling better. While I do agree we have to let regrets go at some point, I also understand why you want to understand them and avoid repeating mistakes. When I first began working on recovery, I practically lived here on SR. I see, now, that a big part of my problem has always been that I am a HUGE codependent...always worried about other people and their problems. I started working on that and it's helped tremendously on my recovery from crack, because I'm no longer stressing myself out over things I can't control. I've even, finally, learned how to manage my money better...something I never did. I think it is all because I want to live my life the best way possible now. I can't change what I did back then, but I can learn from it, so I do understand how you feel. As far as NA/AA, when I first got clean, I tried both and stuck with AA. I found tons of support, more frequent meetings, and was always welcome there. I didn't speak up for a LONG time, and it was okay. I don't go to meetings now, but I definitely use what I learned from them and have many friends (several here) that go. I also know where the local meetings are and what times, in case I need a meeting. I think that when we decide we really, really want recovery and a better life, we do whatever we need to and it sounds like you are doing great. Hugs and prayers! Amy
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| Attitude of Gratitude Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio
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| Tangerine, I'm so glad that you are feeling better today! Oh how you remind me of myself several years ago. I truly wanted Sobriety but when I started to dig into my past with Counselors on a one on one basis, in groups or hearing someone talk in a meeting, it brought up all of those feelings and I wanted more than anything to forget about them and to let go. For me, I had to get back to those feelings, work through them and THEN I could let them go. Hence, the Eleven Promises of AA: . . . . We will not regret the past nor wish to shut the door on it. . . . " That was one of them that when I heard it read at the beginning of every meeting, I would roll my eyes and think to myself, "Yeah, like that's gonna happen, right up there with fear of people and economic insecurity will leave us." I used to use most times when I left a meeting, but I look back now, it wasn't the MEETING that made me use, it was the disease. My disease would see that I was trying to kick it's butt out of my life and get scared. When it was scared that I was going to get into Recovery, it came screaming in my head. Speaking of PM's, I'm going to send you one with my email address and I hope you know that I wouldn't send it to you if I didn't want you to use it! ![]() God Bless, Judy
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Hey Tangerine, when I first got clean/sober, we didn't have NA in our little town, so I clung to AA. It's also been my observation over the years in attending some NA groups elsewhere, and the 3 times we attempted it in town and it folded all 3 times, there seemed to be stronger long-term recovery in our little AA group. I used to have a horrid fear of speaking in a group, and I can't tell you how many meetings I just sat with my head down and didn't make eye contact with anyone. I was so ashamed, plus I had been painfully shy most of my life. I've found the longer I'm in recovery, the more confident I am in self, and am very comfortable in groups now.
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| This catz gone wild!!! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Wonderland...
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tangerine; You have a whole lot of good advice here now. I just wanted to reiterate how important it is to get help for depression, especially in early recovery. It is not considered a relapse if the doctor has you take and anti-depressant and you take it as prescribed. It could help a lot! I am on celexa and I had to add welbuterine XL in early recovery (via my doctor) and it helped a bunch! Good luck and don't be hard on yourself! Hang in there. Love ya; Jaz
__________________ Practice "self-compassion". Let go of those "stupid" everyday trivial things that can bring a recovering addict to their knees. Its more important to focus on yourself and love yourself even if you do "mess-up a bit". |
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Thank you all for the great suggestions. I was diagnosed with dysthymia((depression since childhood)) During high school years,I cried myself to sleep almost every night, usually I didnt end up sleeping until 5 in the morning, then had to get up at 6! I never knew why until I was older and started having flashbacks of abuse. I take lexapro for depression jazz, it works good for me, very few side effects. I may need my dosage increased, its been a while. Im usually a happy person until I get on the pity pot, or start remembering abuse and the awful choices I have made in the past. I know there is nothing I can do bout all that, I would like to start making better choices, and show the people closest to me how much I love them. Myself most of all. I need to love me! Wish everyone a beautiful day! tangerine13 |
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