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Old 03-04-2008, 07:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Tapering Down Day Tommorow

Tomorrow morning, I am going to be dropped another 30 MGs of Methodone which will bring me down to 90 MGs since I returned to this forum. I cannot believe that I am at 60 MGs lessthan I was, just 2 weeks ago. I admit I am a little scared of what awaits me in terms of withdrawal, although my pain management doctor said that I am overly anxious about this issue. He isn't in tune with "addict fear", though, so I am going to a 3:00 PM meeting once I am down with my appointments.

As if that was not enough<smiles>, I have a 12:00 noon appointment with my primary care doc, who is going to lower my daily Klonopin dosage 0.5 MG, to 3.5 per day. This will be my lowest dose in 20 years and I have to admit that I am excited about this particular movement, since I never thought I'd ever be approaching this dosage when I previously was taking 20 MGs a day!

I know I am excited, but I am anxious. I want to go to sleep early so I will wake up on time! I am still waiting for my approval for inpatient rehab so when things get really tenuous, I will have a medical team present, which I have to have for my sanity as well as my health.

For me, I am sharing my experiences here so that some suffering addict may get some glimmer of hope that they, too, can do positive, esteemable things. Two weeks back, I wrote my first post in 5 years here, and I sounded so desperate for some sort of guidance, and the kind people here, gave me suggestions on what to do. Sometimes, we think we know everything, and we don't. Trust this addict on that one. This disease is cunning and insiduous and will fool you when you are most vunerable. Never forget!

Thanks to all!
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Old 03-04-2008, 07:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You can do it, I know you can! ...Good for you!
Then you'll be done with the chaos that addiction brings .........no more being drug thru the mud.

Your doing really well!
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Old 03-04-2008, 07:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You can do it, I know you can! ...Good for you!
Then you'll be done with the chaos that addiction brings .........no more being drug thru the mud.

Your doing really well!
Thanks so much, emmer! Your message of hope and support means much to me, even if we never met because you know about the chaos that I, and, many of us, live through...

I like what you wrote; "no more being drug thru the mud." I cannot live the way I have for the past three decades.

Bless You!
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ksos I want to congratulate you on everything you have accomplished and well laid out plans. You seem to have a positive attitude. Sure, you're anxious, but it sounds like you have all bases covered. Your Doctors are all working together I take it.

Please keep on hanging with us. I have been in Recovery for awhile and I want to commend you for sharing YOUR experience, strength and hope with all of us here.
Whether someone has one day or many years in Recovery it just goes to show that we all can learn something from anyone.

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Old 03-04-2008, 07:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Wow this is wonderful! You can do it!

Are you doing inpatient rehab to get off of the klonopins and methadone?
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Old 03-04-2008, 09:41 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 03-05-2008, 12:03 AM   #7 (permalink)
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ksos I want to congratulate you on everything you have accomplished and well laid out plans. You seem to have a positive attitude. Sure, you're anxious, but it sounds like you have all bases covered. Your Doctors are all working together I take it.

Please keep on hanging with us. I have been in Recovery for awhile and I want to commend you for sharing YOUR experience, strength and hope with all of us here.
Whether someone has one day or many years in Recovery it just goes to show that we all can learn something from anyone.

Thank you and God Bless

Thank you so much, serenity queen, for you heartfelt words. I am so nervous, though, so I am still up at 2:00 AM in the morning! I am hanging with you guys, for this is going to be a huge step which is going to involve all of my HP and healthy people. I am going to continue to go to my meetings and after my MD appointments, I have a meeting already planned for the early afternoon....

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Old 03-05-2008, 12:15 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Wow this is wonderful! You can do it!

Are you doing inpatient rehab to get off of the klonopins and methadone?
Hi TiredMama,

Thanks for your support! Right now, I am waiting for my insurance to approve inpatient trearment and I believe that I have a great chance on getting my approval by the time I will be needing the intense medical supervision.

I was on such a high dose of the methodone previously, that I have yet to really feel the withdrawals yet, but I also have not been down to 90 MGs since 2004.

I am glad you asked this question, for I am very nervous about when it is going to get pretty bad. Also, I am very sensitive to Klonopin weaning and have seized before when I have "run out" of my pills. Thus far, I have been on an outpatient taper, but I am going to stop being a child.
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Good luck to you!! You can do it

I do wish others considering the "klonopin" sub'ng would read this post. I really do. I have seen posts here that people are wanting to sub benzos to get off of opiates or whatever and it bothers me. I know I am not to give out medical advice because I sure as hell am not a doctor, but I did this and it almost killed me.
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Old 03-05-2008, 03:01 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Good luck to you!! You can do it

I do wish others considering the "klonopin" sub'ng would read this post. I really do. I have seen posts here that people are wanting to sub benzos to get off of opiates or whatever and it bothers me. I know I am not to give out medical advice because I sure as hell am not a doctor, but I did this and it almost killed me.
Dear TiredMama....

You read my mind and I couldn't agree with you more. I was so angered to read the "medical advice" given out on other threads under "Substance Abuse" that I wrote 3 or 4 posts which I ended up just erasing since they were just filled with vitrol. I know that, as addicts, we do not have the best judgement all of the time, but when I hear a member of SR tell another member to "get Valium" and "to listen to me", it makes me cringe with fear.

There are medical doctors for a reason, and if these few people would just stop and re-read their words--only this time, understanding that there may be dire consequences associated with their "prescriptions", they may just see a direct connection between their advice and the advice of a drug dealer.

It is one thing to suggest to someone that a warm bath may make withdrawal symptoms ease somewhat. It is quite another to tell someone to procure other addictive drugs and use them in a manner inconsistent with medical protocol.

It just isn't right.
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Old 03-05-2008, 07:27 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Hello Ksos,
It is wonderful to see you moving forward. You're on your way to freedom. As long that it is always forward, then change will happen.
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Sorry to hijack your thread ksos about that. It is just it made me think about it reading your posts. I just can't seem to get it into my mind that taking another addictive drug for another is the right thing to do for an addict (MY OPINION only). Of course being medically supervised and all is different.

Good luck to you ksos and I won't derail your post any longer !
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Probably too early to tell, right?
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Sorry to hijack your thread ksos about that. It is just it made me think about it reading your posts. I just can't seem to get it into my mind that taking another addictive drug for another is the right thing to do for an addict (MY OPINION only). Of course being medically supervised and all is different.

Good luck to you ksos and I won't derail your post any longer !
TiredMama...

You did not hijack this thread at all and I welcome your posts. You reminded me about how dangerous some well-intentioned people (I am sure they are) can be when they cross the line and attempt to become message board psychopharmocologists. I added to your comment because I was up all night last night thinking about that particular thread which I think prompted both of our responses, and it enraged me for some reason.

How can an addict tell another addict to obtain an abusable drug to replace an abusable drug? This is not the spirit in which recovery is founded on, according to my experience in medically supervised inpatient treatment and in 12 Step meetings.

There are many ways in which one addict can help another addict who is struggling in their recovery.

Giving dangerous, misleading and simply incorrect medical directives, is not one of them.
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Hi again, TiredMama and Barto!

I am fine right now, although it is only the first day of the decrease in both my Methodone and Klonopin dose. I actually had to insist to my primary care MD to initiate the Klonopin taper today, since she did not know that I was lowered 30 MGs on the Methodone, but she did it anyway!

Thanks for asking how I am!
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Good to hear, hope things go great for you ksos!!

It enraged me too. For some reason it just irked the crap out of me and I also thought about it for the longest time. Weird eh?

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Thumbs up Glad it’s going well so far ksos.

It irked me too, but I also held my tongue the best I could.
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.......I added to your comment because I was up all night last night thinking about that particular thread which I think prompted both of our responses, and it enraged me for some reason.

How can an addict tell another addict to obtain an abusable drug to replace an abusable drug? This is not the spirit in which recovery is founded on, according to my experience in medically supervised inpatient treatment and in 12 Step meetings.

There are many ways in which one addict can help another addict who is struggling in their recovery.

Giving dangerous, misleading and simply incorrect medical directives, is not one of them.
I agree and I think I had also commented on that thread about the danger of replacing with benzos. Just remember that most everyone has the best intentions when giving advice. Some things work for some and not others. I hope it is going well. Keep us posted on your progess. You will be a success story!!
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It irked me too, but I also held my tongue the best I could.
Hey Barto...

I was very concerned about you and the other person re: that issue, but I felt that you had a handle on the entire topic.

You certainly were aware of what was said. I just worried about the other person, who seemed a bit enamored by what was discussed....
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I agree and I think I had also commented on that thread about the danger of replacing with benzos. Just remember that most everyone has the best intentions when giving advice. Some things work for some and not others. I hope it is going well. Keep us posted on your progess. You will be a success story!!
I know that no one meant harm and you are correct...Thanks for that feedback.

I hope you are right with your thoughts on me : ) I thank you for that!
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