Roxy and Oxy withdrawls

[Its the devil]

They def are the devil!!!!!!! In a little blue pill!!!!! I am going to try and lay down. May your night be PEACEFUL ~PEACE~ ~KENNY~

[tanyapmc]

I hope your able to sleep. If not just let your body and mind rest. One thing that helps me when I cannot sleep is to NOT tell myself that I have to go to sleep. that just increases my anxiety. I dont think anyone ever died from not sleeping. Athough it totally sucks when your right in the middle of it. Hang in there sweetie. You NEVER have to do this again.

[windysan]

itd...glad you're making it. glad to hear you're getting rest too. make sure to eat plenty of sugars and carbs. gain some weight...you prolly need some. milkshakes, cake, pie, fried chicken, skwimps.

[tanyapmc]

Skwimps? Is that a Louisiana dish?

[ccgirl]

BV, I'm really curious now. When Devil first asked what to expect from w/d after such a short time, I was surprised by your answer. I absolutely believe you, because you sure do your homework, but last Christmas, I "slipped" for about 2 - 4 weeks and detoxed at home (which ultimately failed and I finally went to a facility then started meetings) While the mental stuff was just as bad, the physical stuff wasn's as bad. Do you think that's because I didn't double or triple my use on the "binge" or because my doc is a less strong opiate, or am I a freak of nature? I just found your whole post really interesting because I never figured that one out on my own.

Sorry devil; I don't mean to hijack your thread. Maybe you can still take something out of BV's reply. I always do.

[ccgirl]

OK, now I feel like a moron. BV the poster was Bill, but my question is the same. Sorry Devil.

P.S. This is how much of a moron I am on the computer. I don't even know how to copy this to the right thread (sigh - whatever happened to paper and pens?)

[Its the devil]

Its day four and I am still clean. I actually slept from 2:00 am until 7:00 with only two bath interuptions. My head feels more clear! My bopdy aches are subsiding. I have some psychological withdrawls still. Because now that I think about it! I have just been jumping from one substance to the next for a long time! I remeber two years ago calling the ER"s on xmas eve trying to get a refill on my xanax 2mg bars. I was really depedent on those. Then I was mixing the bars with OC's and RO's then just jumped into the 3 80 or the four to five blues a day. So I am kinda cleaning my self from about 4 years of addiction just from different substances. This was by far the wrose I think. Beucase the psyhical effects are by far more severe. Anyway to all of you out there that may have helped me with a little encouragement. Some words of humbelization (IF THAT IS A WORD) and just some stories to relate with. Thank you so very much for helping me get through this ruff time. Its unbeliavble how just a few words of wisdom can carry a soul so far. DAMN THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!! You may have helped me save my own life from going down the shitter.

[windysan]

Kenny, you are doing very, very well with this. Remember to eat. Get some multivitamins too. Exercise will help with everything. Drink water, sweat, drink water, sweat, repeat. I learned that trick from a stripper in Jackson, Mississippi....LOL. The physical part is a bitch but you really have to be careful with the mental part. Depression does kick in and the mind wanders around looking for some stimulation. Exercise will be a healthy alternative and you get free endorphins. Keep talking....whether it be here or at a meeting somewhere. Keep it up.

[vicoprincess93]

glad to know that . No Roxy's for me!!!

[bvaljalo]

Well, cc, I was thinking about going into a somewhat complicated (and long) explanation of the phenomena talking about endorphins and opiate receptors and norepinephrine imbalances ... but I'm not gonna, because a simpler analogy will suffice here I think.

You know how if you start working out, or you start running, for the first time in your life, your progress is pretty slow? Like, it may take you 1 year of running to get from, say, being able to run 1 mile to being able to run 4? Or a year to get from being able to bench press 100 to being able to do 180?

Then, if you take off a year from working out, you end up right back where you were, only able to bench 100 or run a mile ... but then, if you continue working out, it doesn't end up taking you anywhere NEAR a year to get back to benching 180 or running that 4 miles again? It only takes maybe a month or two?

The EXACT same phenomena occurs with addiction. Only with opiates, its usually even faster than the time frames discussed above. Of course, it's a totally different set of processes involved, but it still comes down the body's ability to more quickly re-adapt to changes it's already made in the past than it is for it to adapt to changes being made to it for the first time.

Does that explain it well enough?

[Carrie]

Originally Posted by bvaljalo

Roxy's are 30mg (6 percs worth in one little blue pill) oxycodone in an immediate release (as opposed to oxycontin, which is 12hr time release) formulation, with no tylenol or aspirin or any of that garbage.

They are pretty much the creme dela creme of the opiate pill world (in the USA especially) apart from Dilaudid ...

Not too long ago I would have read that and asked where can I get some of those...My how things have changed.

[ccgirl]

Thanks BV that did explain it. Of course working out is a foreign concept to me.

I hoped it helped anyone else who read it too.

[exjunky]

South Florida is awash in those little blue pills we call "roxies" (the real name is Roxicodone™.) They are so overprescribed you wouldn't believe it. They have these "pain clinics" down here which are so fast and loose with dispensing drugs, we would joke that they should just open a drive-through window.

People regularly are prescribed as many as 8 roxies a day... that's like taking 40 percocet daily, enough to get a habit, ya think??

I drove my connection to one of her appointments and I thought I walked into a William Burroughs novel: the waiting room was filled with hookers, hustlers, and strippers. I was reminded of his line: "The doctor didn't have patient one, unless you count junkies as patients."

Don't worry, I'm not longing for those days again, I'm just expressing my cynicism with Big Pharm.

[bvaljalo]

Actually, it's 48 percs a day. Not to nitpick, but it only goes to further prove your point. I would imagine there's so much of the stuff partly due to the preponderance of retired folk in the area. But I'm sure it's also at least partly related to the doings of the bushista crime family, the c.i.a., and their massive opium farms in afghanistan ...

[billsmith26]

how are things today devil?

[Its the devil]

DOING BAD BUD! FEELING SHITTER THEN WHEN I WAS ON ROXYS

How about you!

~PEACE~ ~ME~

everything will turn out alright!!!

[bvaljalo]

Originally Posted by Its the devil

DOING BAD BUD! FEELING SHITTER THEN WHEN I WAS ON ROXYS

How about you!

~PEACE~ ~ME~

everything will turn out alright!!!

Well, that's pretty much to be expected. It takes at least a good week to start feeling much better, as I'm sure you expected. Keep up the good work though, you are ALMOST THERE man!!! Congrats

If it's any consolation, I cannot say that in sobriety I have for even one second felt BETTER than I did when I when I was on dope. Hell, dope makes you feel good, that's why you take it, after all. That being said, it's sure feels great to NOT need it EVERYDAY, NO MATTER WHAT ... anymore.

And I feel almost as good on a daily basis, so it's well worth the tradeoff

[exjunky]

Coming up next ... the phase where your physical symptoms are gone but your mental symptoms start to drive you up a wall. Get ready for lethargy and depression, dreams about drugs, being "out of it" for hours at a time, and more.

If you have some occupation that can help you fill the time, some hobby or something, jump on it. Even if it's just watching old movies or something, anything to keep your mind busy.

[bvaljalo]

One excellent hobby to pick up during this time frame ... would be some kind of organized recovery program ...

[tanyapmc]

Yup........I had to replace my using with something. For me it is the power of God. I am not religious at all. Just trying to be spiritual.

For me I spent A LOT of time using and getting my supply. Once the biggest part of the physical withdrawl was over I felt better and had to do something with my time. I found meetings were a great way to fill that time in my life.

Amazing how good things can be when I am helping others.

I get the biggest help out of that.

What a concept.

[billsmith26]

yeah im struggling, man! all the usual stuff though, freezing all the time, runy nose, blah, blah, blah. i hope this teaches me a lesson anyway! it was a lesson i THOUGHT I ALREADY KNEW!

[newsandi]

Hopefully this lessons serves its purpose this time and you dont go back. I was just where you were and the memory is still vivid in my mind. Keep coming back and posting. It really was a life saver for me.

[Its the devil]

Just wanted to say that it has been 10 days and I am still sober. I went away for a couple of days up my family place in wisconsin. I needed to gert away from the the city of concrete and steel. Anway, I am starting to be able to sleep better! But that didnt really come until just this past monday. Once again to all of you out there that had a open ear and words of wisdom to you I thank you will all my heart. You were there for me even if it was just to listen. It meant the world to me! It made the night more barable. Made the days not so long! Once again thank you so much! You guys have the kindest sould I know. If anyone has any question they need anwsered about this experience if your just starting to go through it! Fell free to ask ~PEACE~ ~ME~

And MERRY XMAS ALL

[exjunky]

woo hoo!!! you did it!!! Feels good to get out of prison don't it??

[bvaljalo]

NICE WORK!!!

Congratulations, man. It DOES feel good to put that ****, that LIFE, behind you, and no longer be a slave, don't it?

It's ALL about the FREEDOM, BABY!!!

Keep it up, ITD ...