tramadol/ultram - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information

mikiglen · 07-06-2007, 09:38 AM

from time to time people come here asking about ultram as an alternative to narcotic pain medicine..
i'm here to tell you, don't.
i'm sure most of you know my story, but for the new ones who don't, i am day eight off of a lot of ultram every day and this is by far the worst day so far.
ive never used heroin, or anything "hard", but i have quit a 3-400mg day hydro habit cold turkey, and i'm here to tell you this is much worse.
that's all the energy i've got for now....i just wanted to tell people who have heard of it or had it offered to them by their doctor....i wish someone had told me

Alycia · 07-06-2007, 09:40 AM

I hope u feel better soon, and I will keep u in my prayers, hun!

Sugah · 07-06-2007, 09:41 AM

Don't forget this, Misti. I have no doubt that you can get through this, so long as you remain willing to accept your freedom. But please don't forget it.

Peace & Love,
Sugah

mackie · 07-06-2007, 03:27 PM

Misti..........sorry you're feeling so tough!

I wish 'the powers that be' would wise up and quit acting like Ultram is the safest pain med out there. It is wicked beyond compare!
They touted Stadol as being non-addictive too...............and look where that's gotten some people.

I'll keep praying for you!

Lizrox · 07-06-2007, 06:26 PM

Yep , good ole' non-addictive; Ultram; yeah right..

privacy · 07-07-2007, 09:05 PM

I am brand new here so please excuse me if I post this incorrectly. I have severe chronic pain that in 2001 I was given an RX for Ultram. I was told it was safe and totally non-addictive. They have given me this stuff for 6 years and here I am now with a kicking addiction! I still have the pain but I am unwilling to continue with a drug that if I miss a dose I will go through withdrawals! I have started cutting down but even with just 1/4 less of a pill I feel pretty unpleasant side effects. I am determined to do this though. Has anyone else gone through this? How long does the jittery, skin crawling feeling last??
I have gone to my doctors about getting off of this and they pretty much blew me off and told me I was fine taking it and it was a safe drug. Do they not understand what it can do to a person??

mikiglen · 07-08-2007, 08:08 AM

bumping for privacy, and us other ultram addicts to help
i think everyone is different in their wd's. i want to hear how liz did it, for me, i've screwed this detox up with vicodin....i'm at around ten days now and still feel pretty crappy, BUT i've got a lot of other things going on as well.
how much are you taking now, and how are you feeling?

privacy · 07-08-2007, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikiglen

bumping for privacy, and us other ultram addicts to help
i think everyone is different in their wd's. i want to hear how liz did it, for me, i've screwed this detox up with vicodin....i'm at around ten days now and still feel pretty crappy, BUT i've got a lot of other things going on as well.
how much are you taking now, and how are you feeling?

I have not let myself take as much as the doctors wrote for. I have gotten down to 100mg once a day. I am so close to being off but each time I work up the nerve to lower the dose I go through some seriously crappy days. I am so exhausted today and I feel like I have a really bad cold. I am also very emotional, I don't know if its withdrawal or if its just from being so exhausted. I am determined to shake this though!

Lizrox · 07-08-2007, 12:36 PM

Hi Misti,

When I was downing Ultrams I never suffered from withdrawal. I have NO idea why. I also didn't suffer from any Vicodin withdrawal either. They gave me sub in the hospital which totally made me a basket case.

My biggest problem is the benzo withdrawal.

Liz

freedombfree · 07-10-2007, 11:41 AM

Hi,

I am addicted to Tramadol 100mg a day, and I am really struggling getting off them, they are really scary, I stopped for 4 days then went through an horrendous day, so I took my Tramadol and then felt really guilty and beat myself up. It is my first day today at SR and tomorrow I am going to try not to take one, I will keep reading and posting

Sav · 07-10-2007, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikiglen

i'm sure most of you know my story, but for the new ones who don't, i am day eight off of a lot of ultram every day and this is by far the worst day so far.

Woah. I just had someone on another board say they used this stuff for an after methadone taper withdrawal treatment.

What group is this stuff from? Is it a Benzo? How long were you taking it? How much? What are the withdrawal symptoms?

I'm about to go off my taper, so I'm looking for things to help. I'm also doing research for a newsletter for the local harm reduction center (hard copy, most addicts don't have computer access, let alone phones! Hopefully it can be place in local clinics to.)

And what is a hydro (water) addict?

Sugah · 07-10-2007, 12:21 PM

hydro = hydrocodone, Sav.

StagebearNJ · 07-10-2007, 02:04 PM

No-one knows better than I the horrors of tramadol. I wish there was some official way to really have my voice heard to the FDA. I'm not usually political regarding such things, but I would spend the time writing letters, testifying, etc.
It would be worth it to assure maybe someone els e didn't suffer through this. I truly believe doctors are just not thoroughly informed. Sure, there are those who just don't give a cr@p, but there are enough genuinely caring medical pros who really believe the hype that it's not addictive.

Lizrox · 07-11-2007, 10:52 AM

misti,

How are you feeling?

Sav · 07-11-2007, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sugah

hydro = hydrocodone, Sav.

(sound of my hand slapping against my forehead) ah, yes, of course. Must have had that information in some of those brain cells I did in.

Sugah · 07-11-2007, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sav

(sound of my hand slapping against my forehead) ah, yes, of course. Must have had that information in some of those brain cells I did in.

I don't even want to think about the things contained in those cells I tossed to the curb.....

Peace & Love,
Sugah

emmer · 07-11-2007, 06:47 PM

I was the same as you Liz- with my (350-500mg) or so, addiction to codeine
I almost swear i didn't feel any withdrawals. Maybe I wasn't on enough for withdrawals I don't nkow, or maybe it just didn't seem bad compared with klonopin

Hang in there Misti.

mikiglen · 07-11-2007, 08:29 PM

ty for your support
slowly getting better. i am at day four after two vicodin, usually day three is the worst, so i am hoping i am past the worst of it, finally.
still really dragging in the ams....detox or cymbalta, can't tell. more energy finally in the pms....by blocking out all thoughts of pills when i start to get them, i am slowly but surely making it. i am forcing to feel that i am "well", even if i am not, doing things even if i don't feel like it, taking the kids out, working, etc, and when i start to think "boy, i wonder if i could get some ultram/vicodin/provigil (insert drug here)"...i literally just shut my brain off.
it works for me

jane_668 · 07-12-2007, 12:01 AM

Hello Misti,for whatever it's worth I've been taking 8 pills100mgs Tramadol.That's 800mgs daily which is enough to kill anyone.I donn how i survived all that amount especially when it's mixed with alchol.But Iam here thanks to god and almost off Tramadol.but I couldnot quit it cold turkety so I had to visit my doc and I'm now on prescribed medications.So if I was able to quit it for 5 months,so do you.YOU CAN DO IT.Just believe in yourself ,trust that no matter what you will face it will soon be gone.Just like a nightmare which won't last forever.Believe me the pain of withdrawals is far less painfull than the feeling of guilt when you know you r killing yourself daily.There were times when I thought I wouldnot wake up the next morning.But I am thankful to every minute I am alive and will try a 1000 times to quit ,if that what it takes me to get off this drug,My prayers are with you.

Love
Jane

07-06-2007, 09:38 AM	#1 (permalink)
mikiglen Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: here, there, everywhere Posts: 2,122	tramadol/ultram from time to time people come here asking about ultram as an alternative to narcotic pain medicine.. i'm here to tell you, don't. i'm sure most of you know my story, but for the new ones who don't, i am day eight off of a lot of ultram every day and this is by far the worst day so far. ive never used heroin, or anything "hard", but i have quit a 3-400mg day hydro habit cold turkey, and i'm here to tell you this is much worse. that's all the energy i've got for now....i just wanted to tell people who have heard of it or had it offered to them by their doctor....i wish someone had told me __________________ Now and again we try To just stay alive Maybe we'll turn it all around 'Cause it's not too late It's never too late

07-06-2007, 09:40 AM	#2 (permalink)
Alycia help123 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: winona, Mn Posts: 262	I hope u feel better soon, and I will keep u in my prayers, hun! __________________ Please God grant me salvation, and give me the motivation,to stop using, and quick abusing, my mind, body, and soul.

07-06-2007, 09:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
Sugah Om, Aum, Ohm... Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Punxsutawney/Pittsburgh Posts: 2,262	Don't forget this, Misti. I have no doubt that you can get through this, so long as you remain willing to accept your freedom. But please don't forget it. Peace & Love, Sugah __________________ I don't know what happens when people die Can't seem to grasp it as hard as I try It's like a song I can hear playing right in my ear That I can't sing I can't help listening ~JB

07-06-2007, 03:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
mackie Keeper of the Stars Join Date: May 2006 Location: A little left of center Posts: 170	Misti..........sorry you're feeling so tough! I wish 'the powers that be' would wise up and quit acting like Ultram is the safest pain med out there. It is wicked beyond compare! They touted Stadol as being non-addictive too...............and look where that's gotten some people. I'll keep praying for you! __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mackie "In the book of life, the answers aren't in the back!" (Charlie Brown)

07-06-2007, 06:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lizrox Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 513	Yep , good ole' non-addictive; Ultram; yeah right.. Last edited by Lizrox; 07-06-2007 at 06:27 PM. Reason: more info

07-07-2007, 09:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
privacy Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2	Ultram I am brand new here so please excuse me if I post this incorrectly. I have severe chronic pain that in 2001 I was given an RX for Ultram. I was told it was safe and totally non-addictive. They have given me this stuff for 6 years and here I am now with a kicking addiction! I still have the pain but I am unwilling to continue with a drug that if I miss a dose I will go through withdrawals! I have started cutting down but even with just 1/4 less of a pill I feel pretty unpleasant side effects. I am determined to do this though. Has anyone else gone through this? How long does the jittery, skin crawling feeling last?? I have gone to my doctors about getting off of this and they pretty much blew me off and told me I was fine taking it and it was a safe drug. Do they not understand what it can do to a person??

07-08-2007, 08:08 AM	#7 (permalink)
mikiglen Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: here, there, everywhere Posts: 2,122	bumping for privacy, and us other ultram addicts to help i think everyone is different in their wd's. i want to hear how liz did it, for me, i've screwed this detox up with vicodin....i'm at around ten days now and still feel pretty crappy, BUT i've got a lot of other things going on as well. how much are you taking now, and how are you feeling? __________________ Now and again we try To just stay alive Maybe we'll turn it all around 'Cause it's not too late It's never too late

07-08-2007, 12:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
Lizrox Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 513	Hi Misti, When I was downing Ultrams I never suffered from withdrawal. I have NO idea why. I also didn't suffer from any Vicodin withdrawal either. They gave me sub in the hospital which totally made me a basket case. My biggest problem is the benzo withdrawal. Liz

07-10-2007, 11:41 AM	#10 (permalink)
freedombfree Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 16	Hi, I am addicted to Tramadol 100mg a day, and I am really struggling getting off them, they are really scary, I stopped for 4 days then went through an horrendous day, so I took my Tramadol and then felt really guilty and beat myself up. It is my first day today at SR and tomorrow I am going to try not to take one, I will keep reading and posting

07-10-2007, 12:21 PM	#12 (permalink)
Sugah Om, Aum, Ohm... Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Punxsutawney/Pittsburgh Posts: 2,262	hydro = hydrocodone, Sav. __________________ I don't know what happens when people die Can't seem to grasp it as hard as I try It's like a song I can hear playing right in my ear That I can't sing I can't help listening ~JB

07-10-2007, 02:04 PM	#13 (permalink)
StagebearNJ Take it like a bear... Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: In the den Posts: 348	No-one knows better than I the horrors of tramadol. I wish there was some official way to really have my voice heard to the FDA. I'm not usually political regarding such things, but I would spend the time writing letters, testifying, etc. It would be worth it to assure maybe someone els e didn't suffer through this. I truly believe doctors are just not thoroughly informed. Sure, there are those who just don't give a cr@p, but there are enough genuinely caring medical pros who really believe the hype that it's not addictive. __________________ "Sometimes, all I can do is show up."

07-11-2007, 10:52 AM	#14 (permalink)
Lizrox Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 513	misti, How are you feeling?

07-11-2007, 06:47 PM	#17 (permalink)
emmer The lion sleeps tonight Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,641	I was the same as you Liz- with my (350-500mg) or so, addiction to codeine I almost swear i didn't feel any withdrawals. Maybe I wasn't on enough for withdrawals I don't nkow, or maybe it just didn't seem bad compared with klonopin Hang in there Misti.

07-11-2007, 08:29 PM	#18 (permalink)
mikiglen Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: here, there, everywhere Posts: 2,122	ty for your support slowly getting better. i am at day four after two vicodin, usually day three is the worst, so i am hoping i am past the worst of it, finally. still really dragging in the ams....detox or cymbalta, can't tell. more energy finally in the pms....by blocking out all thoughts of pills when i start to get them, i am slowly but surely making it. i am forcing to feel that i am "well", even if i am not, doing things even if i don't feel like it, taking the kids out, working, etc, and when i start to think "boy, i wonder if i could get some ultram/vicodin/provigil (insert drug here)"...i literally just shut my brain off. it works for me __________________ Now and again we try To just stay alive Maybe we'll turn it all around 'Cause it's not too late It's never too late

07-12-2007, 12:01 AM	#19 (permalink)
jane_668 Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NewYork,NY Posts: 402	Hello Misti,for whatever it's worth I've been taking 8 pills100mgs Tramadol.That's 800mgs daily which is enough to kill anyone.I donn how i survived all that amount especially when it's mixed with alchol.But Iam here thanks to god and almost off Tramadol.but I couldnot quit it cold turkety so I had to visit my doc and I'm now on prescribed medications.So if I was able to quit it for 5 months,so do you.YOU CAN DO IT.Just believe in yourself ,trust that no matter what you will face it will soon be gone.Just like a nightmare which won't last forever.Believe me the pain of withdrawals is far less painfull than the feeling of guilt when you know you r killing yourself daily.There were times when I thought I wouldnot wake up the next morning.But I am thankful to every minute I am alive and will try a 1000 times to quit ,if that what it takes me to get off this drug,My prayers are with you. Love Jane

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