tramadol & alcohol addiction

[odie123]

well i used to come here 4 what it seems like years ago...i tried to kick the hydrocodone and drinking, but i couldnt so when i finally found a way to get off the vicoden by using ultram (tramadol) wellll now i take tramadol...if i dont i will start getting sick i will cough and get sick until i take my dosage again...i swear i have just learned to live with this addiction. the only thing i wonder is that i am sure there will be a day when i surely would have to stop ...and the horrible feeling i get when i am presented with this thought....anyways just wanted to stop by and say hi and just write a few lines
btw...alycia i am glad you are still doing well xxxooo to yur boys

[Sugah]

Hey, odie. I remember you.

Question: what's the longest you've put up with the withdrawals before you've given in?

Peace & Love,
Sugah

[odie123]

not even half a day the next day..a little over my next dose..i havent ever tried to go full blown stopi always have vicoden line up ..no exceptions

[odie123]

you know..i really wish a i coujld stop, but i feel more competent on these drugs i could not see myself dealing with everyday life ..toddler husband homemaking without them..or even if people would even think i am fun..i dont know i guess i like the way i am with them and when i dont have them for not even half a day ..i am mean hurting and yell at my baby and just in alll very very unhappy nad i think my baby deserves the best....call me freaking crazy..anyways sorry for saying completely idiodic stuff please dont be too harsh on mme...i guess i am just not ready yet...but i am sure there will be THAT day when i will, will come

[Lizrox]

Hi,

I used to abuse Tramadol like crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!! I loved that drug. I also abused Vicodin.

I went to rehab/detox to get off of these opiates (I was also abusing Valium).

In rehab I learned HOW to deal with my life (my 3 year old, my husband, housework) without the use of these drugs. There ARE other ways of dealing with life besides taking drugs.

You will only know when you are ready. Drugs aren't the solution to everyday problems. In my opinion they just make life worse.

How much Tramadol are you taking? If you decide to stop PLEASE se a dr. Tramadol withdrawal can cause seizures.

Keep posting and let us know how you are doing.

Hang in there!!!

Liz

[emmer]

Way to tell it like it is Lizrox !

[odie123]

i know you guys are right. since its been a very long time since i have been here.. i will tell everyone my history... have been on all these drugs for 10 years there has not been one day in ten years that i have not taken something is part of my life now...i take sr ultram 300 mgs twice a day when i dont have that i take about 10 ultrams a day when i get my vicoden i have about 10 a day and since they dont last 4ever i use the ultram to stop the withdrawls of such. i guess i interchangethem through out the month...i am also an alcoholic i drink from 3 o'clock to 10 at night 10 to 11 beers at night, and while you are on ultram or vicoden you dont get as drunk as you would w/o it soooooo i drink like a fish ...yes, i am an alcoholic and an addict, my dad died from hepatitis c b/c of his drinking so i do hacve a history of addiction...anyways since its been a very long time since i have been here...i guess i had to tall everyone my history..i really DO apreciate all your comments and suggestions(sorry about spelling i am from spanish)...thank you so much for you very very helpful advice...

[StagebearNJ]

Originally Posted by odie123

you know..i really wish a i coujld stop, but i feel more competent on these drugs i could not see myself dealing with everyday life

It doesn't sound like you're managing all that competently on the pills and booze.

I know the feeling, though. Trust me, it's all an ill-usion.
Best,
Bear

[Sugah]

Do you want to stop?

Peace & Love,
Sugah

[xjunkie4u]

I think and hope you can make it off this drug. I had a friend who got on and off it. I don't understand how anyone gets anything off this drug. I got a script for it once and got nothing! Anyway, I know it has a SSRI anti-depressant component to it that makes it tough to stop. all the best

[2ala2]

Originally Posted by xjunkie4u

I don't understand how anyone gets anything off this drug. I got a script for it once and got nothing! Anyway, I know it has a SSRI anti-depressant component to it that makes it tough to stop. all the best

Hey XJUNKIE4U, I gotta clarify this: Tramadol does not have an anti-depressant component . It is a synthetic opiate prescribed for analgesic purposes i.e. for extreme pain.
it is EXTREMELY addictive.

[mikiglen]

actually, it does have something in it that lifts mood and has AD properties. you are right, it is a synthetic opiate, but is also noncontrolled and per FDA, NONaddctive
however, when you take it, you don't get euphoria, like you do with opiates per se, you get a more positive outlook, a contentness, a focus, and energy, although nothing like vicodin or coke.
maybe it doesn't for everyone, but for me (day four off 15-30 a day cold turkey), it DID have AD properties. that is why the mental wds are so much worse than just opiates (and i have also gone cold turkey off about 400mg hydro per day, and this is worse)

[odie123]

i am glad to see that i am not the only one that thinks tramadol; is addicting..i have never been off it so i am not sure if i will get dts, but i gotta say one time i was off of it for about 12 hours w/o it and i started to cough like crazy it got terrible and migrane and i started to cough so violently that i was vomiting like crazy ..it was awful///any coments on that ...or maybe was it cuinquidink??

[xjunkie4u]

I understand that it is hard to get off of after long use more because of the brain chemical component.. I just don't understand why people would take this addictivly when there is no real kick like a real narcotic. If you need something for serious pain this drug is a joke,

[odie123]

ok, x...you are right

[mikiglen]

a lot of abusers started out with vicodin, and went to ultram.
i took it cause it was "safer", and i knew i abused the vicodin. however, i am a pill addict, not just a vike addict.
take two, takes away mild pain and gives what i described above. hmmmmmmmmm, addict thinks, maybe take four next time, then five, etc
bam, addictive behavior with a joke drug

[Alycia]

what is tramadol is that like darvaset? or less then that like ultraset or ultraim?

[mikiglen]

it is generic ultram
oh and odie, i did the same thing. run out of vicodin, get ultram. run out of ultram, get vike. i also used the ultram to kick a vicodin relapse, then tried vicodin to kick ultram.
it sux

[odie123]

its a drug that if you take about 4 at a time you will be feeling a lot like when yur on vicoden ...you will get that flushed feeling ...feeling warm feeling good ...energy...an outlook on yurself ***wow i am soooo cool*** and overall feeling of wellness that can get you into a lot of trouble (health wise)... anyways i used to do vicoden like crazy but now that i found this drung (only to get me off the vicoden w/o really feeling the dts i got hooked on this one b/c ius easier to get and i feel less of an addict (call me crazy) xxxxoooo Alycia

[odie123]

yup alycia i am doing the same shiat...oh my space i will send it to you
xxxooo
odie

[t_a_n_y_a_]

Funny how it works, and how we rationalize things in our head. When i was popping pills and addicted to codeine I thought no way i'm not a drug user. Junkie's are people who do heroin and crack. I figured if I didn't do what I considered "hard" drugs I was somehow above the people on the street. That is until I found myself there and while I had a nice home to go home to, and no track marks in my arm I soon realized we're all the same. Whether its the prostitute doing tricks for crack or the lawyer doing coke in bathroom on his break.

[StagebearNJ]

Gotta agree on the "antidepressant" properties. Tramadol can produce the feeling a lot of people seek from antidepressants (odie said it beautifully above). Problem is the w/d from tramadol can be more difficult than from "heavier" true opiates.

Hey, Misti- I did the same thing...perc or vike to tram and vice versa.

[mikiglen]

i don't imagine it will be long before it becomes controlled.
there's got to be a lot of people checking into rehabs for it

[emmer]

Hi odie, I used valium to get off klonopin and coedine to get off my valium addiction.
It made sense to me at the time but the coedine was difficult to come off as I found it very addictive. I relapst about 27 times on coedine.
That being said I now have about 9 months clean time under my belt.
I have to say I am worried about you odie, please don't kill yourself with drugs.
Please pick up the phone and call for help.....call NA
I did it, you can too. Please take care.

[Alycia]

odie I am worried aobut you too. I have known u for along time, do what I did yest. go to a meeting, I am going to one at noon, u should too!