Decided to get help

[Duchess*]

Hi guys. I don't know if anyone will remember me but I've decided to stop my Lortab again. As soon as I got my bottle I started taking again.

Alot has happened in a couple of months. I put my mother thru rehab which did no good what-so-ever.

Anyhow, I called a Dr. today and have an appt tomorrow to be put on the Suboxone. I am scared but I can't do this by myself. I have so many accomplishments in my life, and have proved my willpower, but these little blue pills I can't do it. The only thing in my life I have failed at. I don't want to be on the sub. forever just long enough to not go thru the withdrawls again. Do you know how quickly I can come off of it? I can't believe I called today and made the appt. Any experience with this drug I would appreciate. I don't want to become addicted to another drug and don't want to feel in a cloud again. I just want my drive, ambition, and passion for life back. Thank you for reading.
Duchess

[GwenMarie30]

Welcome back Duchess. Its good to see you again. Keep posting here. It will help.

[T1]

Originally Posted by Duchess*

I don't want to be on the sub. forever just long enough to not go thru the withdrawls again.

Duchess keep in mind that from what I understand about sub is that it contains buprenorphine and naloxone. Bup is still an opiate but not as abusable and naloxone is antagonist. If you take sub within the first 48 hours of being clean like Blood has said the naloxone will cause you to go into a rapid withdraw process which is why they make you wait before use during home detox. I hear it's absolutely misserable and they only recommend doing rapid detox under superised care. I know sub has done wonders for so many but it's kinda like paying for the withdraws now or paying them later. You will most definitely go through wd's when getting off sub depending on how long/much you were taking. I was also told that because it has a longer half life it stays in your system much much longer then detoxing from hydro, vics, lortab whatever. The benefit I suppose is it isn't considered as intense a wd process but it can last for a much longer period of time. I wanted opiates clean from my system as fast as possible so I went with out sub.

Ask your doctor about two other options Clonodine & Naltrexone. Clonodine will help with the sweats and other wd systems. After a few days on Clon I know longer needed it. Naltrexone is an antagonist so it helps curb your cravings and keep you from getting high if you just so happen to relapse. Theory goes if you can't get high then why bother. Natrexone is a daily maintenence thing. Clonodine can be taken whenever you feel like crap. Hope this helps

[iluvmykids]

duchess -- I will add my 2cents. I really didnt have the choice b/c the sub DR. was to far away, but I can relate my story. I did a 2 week taper from a 13 pill a day 10/325 Norco. It wasnt that enjoyable but each day came with a little relief. I started to HATE the pills, which is why I think a taper works. YOU CANNOT be responsible for it yourself. someone else has to hold on to and administer the pills at ALL TIMES. We are ADDICTS and when the WD's kick in and you know that a STUPID pill will make it better, we will do crazy things and THAT will screw up the taper process. I went 4-4-4-3-3-3-3-2-2-2-2-1-1-1---- Then sometime around the last few days I took a few extra (sneeky lite punk i am) and that made me REAL mad and that was it. the next day I flushed the rest and went CT. Now I am 4 days in and have made a HUGE jump over the hump. I have a few symptoms towards the end of the day and sleep is still a little screwed up , but that is it. Not bad --You can do it. Pm me if you have specific questions about the taper

[Duchess*]

Thank you all. I wish I could of done it cold turkey, but I couldn't, I just couldn't find the strength or willpower. I guess I'm a whimp for that but I couldn't stay on these Lortabs anymore either.

But I did want you all to know I stopped my last dose of Lortab last night at 7pm and saw the Dr at 8am. I was in W/D, I guess you could say mild to medium and got a shot that helped a little. He watched me for 2 hours and gave me the rx of what he wanted me to take today. It has been a little rough today, but nothing at all what it used to be. Still kind of weak. But I am not taking the max dose he gave me. I am being very careful about this, as I don't want another monkey on my back. But I can't keep checking Fedex and Iship waiting for my next package and spending all this money on pills and being numb anymore. I did break down when I got home, I can't believe I've done this to myself. I have an appt to see a therapist also.

I did go to a NA meeting, a couple of weeks ago, but I got scared. There was alot of people there that were pretty mad at life which I completely understand, but did not feel like that exact place was meant for me so I left and a guy followed me out and said he always wondered what was in a pretty girls' purse. Scared the Sh-t out of me, because I had Lortab in my purse and thought great he steals my purse and gets hooked again because of me Kind of sad and kind of funny. I didn't even think to not bring them in. STUPID ME.... I am going to look for another group (heard sometimes it takes awhile to find the right place)

Anyhow, thank you all for the support and advise. I'm not taking it lightly. I'm going to be very careful..

[Duchess*]

Originally Posted by iluvmykids

duchess -- I will add my 2cents. I really didnt have the choice b/c the sub DR. was to far away, but I can relate my story. I did a 2 week taper from a 13 pill a day 10/325 Norco. It wasnt that enjoyable but each day came with a little relief. I started to HATE the pills, which is why I think a taper works. YOU CANNOT be responsible for it yourself. someone else has to hold on to and administer the pills at ALL TIMES. We are ADDICTS and when the WD's kick in and you know that a STUPID pill will make it better, we will do crazy things and THAT will screw up the taper process. I went 4-4-4-3-3-3-3-2-2-2-2-1-1-1---- Then sometime around the last few days I took a few extra (sneeky lite punk i am) and that made me REAL mad and that was it. the next day I flushed the rest and went CT. Now I am 4 days in and have made a HUGE jump over the hump. I have a few symptoms towards the end of the day and sleep is still a little screwed up , but that is it. Not bad --You can do it. Pm me if you have specific questions about the taper

Congratulations. You should be so proud of yourself. That is one huge step!!! The one thing I couldn't do was flush them down the drain is which is what I should of done. WOW again. Keep it up. You are doing great!!!

[Tyrant]

hi guys
2/1/2007 i stopped my lortabs, norcos
i jumped on the sub train
works wonders helped me i will
talk to you more about if you
have any questions i am so happy
that you are turning your life around
its so much better off the pills norco.lortabs
its so much better i know
i was bad
i have friends that are still bad.....but
we have hope we all can talk and listen
and you would be amazed what the power
of community can accomplish....im proud
of you and everyone for making and taking
steps in the right directions....

best to you

=)

[rat]

Good wishes for you, let us know how you are getting on with the suboxone.