Dentist gave me a script for Vicodine!

[GwenMarie30]

Well I have a tooth that is absesed. It has been hurting so bad. I have been taking Alieve and tylenol and using the Maximum Strength Oragel. Nothing is helping. I went to the dentist today and he gave me a script for Vicodin with 1 refill. I did tell him that Im an addict in recovery and have been clean a year and 5 months. He told me to use it if I need it. At this point I think I do as it feels as if my entire face could just shatter. Now my plan is to give the pills to my boyfriend to help me so I dont just eat them all at once. Percocet and meth are my DOC. But an addict likes anything just to make them feel better. Im worried of the withdrawls. They suck. I wonder if this will set my clean date all over again?

[SaTiT]

Hang in there Gwen..

My fisrt gf in recovery of 5 yrs. Went to to denist and off she into a full
relapsed. It suck ..it really,really did. That was the end of that relationship.
She was the most loving , mellow person you can meet.
She was so find for years and years and that was all it took.
She went back to her drugs of chioce, meth. And all that insanity. Never met her in her
addiction...mmm i got a little tastes of the monster.

Anyway, i had a major accident earlier. 1st & 2nd degree burns.
I gave my GF those pills bottle. She enable me at first cuz i started
getting addicted to them. I went through the first bottle like nothing.
The second refill...mmm i was being a butt, but she stood her grounds.
Tell your hubby i'm praying for him.lol

If you had the NA basic texts. Theres answers in the chapter of
More is reveal.

I didn't consider taking all those painkiller a relapsed.
That was beyound my control. Even normal people have to take
mrdician or painkiller after a surgery.

I stayed close...real, real close to the programs in those times too.
Meetings once or twice a day. The people in recovery helped us
alot in those earliy day as a couple . As if our extended families.
They really, really want us to make it as a couple. We had two
little girl we had to take of also. We took them to meetings
and it wasn't never a problem. My GF bascially spent most of
her times with her sponsor and her kids everyday, like they were
best freinds. We bascially hang out with couples in recovery.

[GwenMarie30]

Thanks SaTiT. My bf has no problem standing his ground either. I have already taken 2 pills today and feel dirty for doing so. I know I need them, but it doesnt make me feel any better about it. Taking the pills has always been a leader of taking me back into my main addiction with meth. Im really kinda scared. I will be calling my sponsor tonight and maybe get to a meeting tomarrow afternoon.

[margo]

Hi Gwen. I hope your dentist (who I think should have his head examined) put you on antibiotics, which should reduce the pain and inflammation due to infection within 48 hours and then you won't need the Vicodin.

My best advice is to be very, very careful - you could end up flirting with disaster otherwise. You've got a scrip on refill too - will you be strong enough not to fill it, and if you do will you tell your b/f and give it to him to look after too? These are important questions for you to think about.

Take care!

[anvilhead]

i hope you have an appointment to have the tooth fixed soon.....???? also, jsut because a doc writes a scrip, we can always say, no let's just give me enough for 4 days and see how it goes. WE have to take personal responsibility for our recovery at all times. get the tooth fixed ASAP and you won't need the pills........

take care.....

[marle]

Gwen, Please be careful. I have come to care for you very much and also have been amazed at how much you have grown since you first came here. I would hate to see you relapse back to your DOC. Take care of yourself and use those vics sparingly and flush the rest. Maybe tell the pharmicist to cancel the refill. You really do have too much to lose. Hugs, Marle

[GwenMarie30]

The dentist called an antibiotic last thursday that I have been taking and it has helped some. My bf does know about the refill and will pay close attention to my taking the pills. The dentist is unable to fix the tooth and is referring me to an oral surgen. I cant get in to see him until next week. I hope to get this resolved soon. I will keep every updated on how I do.

[Done-With-It]

Gwen~I Do believe you will be okay. Meth and Percoset are not an option for you. If you use them you WILL go to jail, you know this. Be wise and be careful and you know where I am if you need me....(((((..........)))))))

[Brian1978]

What mg are they? I found a way to take narcotic meds without worry. My mom took over my pain meds (10 mg lortab) and breaks them in half and gives them (one half at at time) to me only if I really need it. Can you get someone to monitor your meds?

[ayla zaire]

i took vicoden at least once a week for the last 5 months......and i still consider myself to have 136 days sober.......i did the same thing, i had someone hold them for me and monitor my use......and it was worth it.......i had horrible headaches...and they were the only thing that relieved the pain......now i have been completely off of the narcotics for a week and a half, and i am grateful for that, but i think that it's ok to take medications for pain, as long as you are very careful........

i hope you find some relief....

ayla

[Ten Chips Down]

Originally Posted by anvilhead

WE have to take personal responsibility for our recovery at all times.

(Hi Gwen. ) ^ That is the answer, you know.

I can't tell you not to accept pain-relief, good Lordy! And yet the first thing to jump into my mind when I saw your subject >>>

Dentist gave me a script for Vicodin!

<<< as if someone had just perpetrated some heinous act on you lol, was, "well... she doesn't have to take it, uhhh maybe i'm missing something..." lol ...

That was my initial thought, Gwen. As addicts, we are responsible for every single facet of our recovery. That's the power of will which separates addiction as 'disease' from any other like it in medicine.

Follow your inner voice!

Ten

[racegirl2448]

I personally think addicts should be able to relief pain with pain meds. Everyone....including pain pill addicts in recovery has a right to be pain free,this is a patient's right. By law Doctor's can not refuse this right to a patient even though the patient has a past that includes addict. The Doctor can demand proof and stuff like that but if he sees plain as day the issue causing the pain he must treat the pain......dentist's included. He may draw up a special agreement right then and there to cover himself from legal issues if the patient chooses to relaps but.... in your case Gwen I feel it was not appropriate for him to give a script with re-fills to a recovering addict...one small script like 20-30 pills was fine but a re-fill was just stupid. As far as having WD's.... I doubt you will have WD's if taking 2 pills here and there...even if you took 2 everyday for 10days I doubt you would have WD's enough to bother you. This is just my opinion. I am not always correct though.
Good Luck & hope you feel better
(( HUGZ ))

[NA_Wonder]

This is certainly an area of concern for any recovering addict. The NA publication "In Times Of Illness" offers some very good suggestions on what to do if medications are deemed necessary while in recovery. I myself relapsed after using some prescribed medications and not following recommendations. My mind can start to manufacture pain in order to use if I'm not extremely careful. I had 14 years clean at the time....I have 4 and a half months now. The last 4 years have been a nightmare, and getting back into recovery isn't easy once that monster is on the loose again...

[Ten Chips Down]

Wow, Na.

Well this is not a topic to consider lightly, that's for sure then.

i was thinking about, what if the medication like "had" to contain alcohol, and i for some reason absolutely had to have it? -Gosh, I'd revolt, right there! See I'm not an opiate addict but man do I despise any notions of having to take (let alone drink) alcohol ever again. lol It's just a challenging, interesting subject.

[YouveGotStyleKi]

Originally Posted by racegirl2448

I personally think addicts should be able to relief pain with pain meds. Everyone....including pain pill addicts in recovery has a right to be pain free,this is a patient's right. By law Doctor's can not refuse this right to a patient even though the patient has a past that includes addict. The Doctor can demand proof and stuff like that but if he sees plain as day the issue causing the pain he must treat the pain......dentist's included. He may draw up a special agreement right then and there to cover himself from legal issues if the patient chooses to relaps but.... in your case Gwen I feel it was not appropriate for him to give a script with re-fills to a recovering addict...one small script like 20-30 pills was fine but a re-fill was just stupid. As far as having WD's.... I doubt you will have WD's if taking 2 pills here and there...even if you took 2 everyday for 10days I doubt you would have WD's enough to bother you. This is just my opinion. I am not always correct though.
Good Luck & hope you feel better
(( HUGZ ))

This is exactly how I feel. If taking a pain pill is absolutely necessary, where you're in such excrutiating pain where no OTC pain medicine works, then you should be able to have relief. I look at it this way, if you take the medicine exactly as prescribed and NOT just to get a high, I think it's alright to take them, because you do need them.

Good luck Gwen!

[leeside]

I'd just stick with Orojel/generic and strong mouthwash.

[GwenMarie30]

Well today is day 2. I only took one more last night before bed and I only took 1 so far today. Ive been continuing the oragel and the alieve and the antibiotic. I really havent felt the need to take anymore today. My bf left me 3 to take while he was gone to work. I believe I will be able to hand him back 2 pills when he gets home. As far as the refill goes, there is 15 pills in this bottle and it should last till next week until I can get in to the oral surgen.

[Done-With-It]

Good Job Gwen!!

[GwenMarie30]

I figured I'd come back here and confess to you all about thought I was having already with taking vicodin. I got the script for vicodin yesterday and only took 3 yesterday and one today and already my addict thinking has me thinking it is so easy to get more. Just a few calls to different dentist and an appointment and I could get more pain pills. This is how strong my addiction is to pain meds. I hate the thoughts. I havent and wont call another dentist, its just thoughts that I had. Its amazing after being clean for a year and a half on how quick, I can slip back into active addiction. I have no insurance so I pay cash at the office which is fairly cheap just for the xray and office visit and the script I only paid $8. I just wanted to let you know how quickly it takes just to slip back with something so small as vicodin.

[YouveGotStyleKi]

If you're honestly falling back in that quick, I say deal with the pain as best as you can until you can get the abscess removed...

[Ten Chips Down]

Originally Posted by GwenMarie30

I figured I'd come back here and confess to you all about thought I was having already with taking vicodin. I got the script for vicodin yesterday and only took 3 yesterday and one today and already my addict thinking has me thinking it is so easy to get more. Just a few calls to different dentist and an appointment and I could get more pain pills. This is how strong my addiction is to pain meds. I hate the thoughts. I havent and wont call another dentist, its just thoughts that I had. Its amazing after being clean for a year and a half on how quick, I can slip back into active addiction. I have no insurance so I pay cash at the office which is fairly cheap just for the xray and office visit and the script I only paid $8. I just wanted to let you know how quickly it takes just to slip back with something so small as vicodin.

Hi Gwen, again.

I really appreciate this level of honesty in you!! I so admire it.

This type of candor is so useful; so very demonstrative for the rest of us addicts, who as a group tend to forget the gravity of our disease so easily.

I have to tell you this is such a very slippery psychological slope, and would be for me too. (Hey I said I'd never been an opiate addict. "YET"!!! ok? lol )

I have had my share of medical stuff done to me in my life. I'm 43 now, and never once have I had to take anything stronger than Tylenol #3--that's with codeine--for outpatient. And even then, the couple of times I ever did so, it was questionable as to whether it was helping me.

lol

I've weathered lots of pain; have had many varieties of toothache, abscess, post-operative stuff (some oral surgeries serious enough for inpatient).

What I'm getting at is, while growing up, unless my pain was constant and of high-intensity... hell it was never on our radar to have something "strong" at home. Just never occurred. Different little 'cultures,' huh? lol

I have experienced some hydrocodone (and similar) buzzes. And wow!! Defo unique, and heaven on Earth, that stuff. So I know *juuuust* enough to know that I could get HOOKED, FAST.

If it were me and my pain was of a fluctuating variety which didn't drive me to the emergency room, I would have to pass on Vics. Too high a risk.

...That's just me, though. You got me to thinking and i had to share.

Ten

[Ten Chips Down]

oh - that goes double if i had a specific history of addiction to those meds. I'm no glutton for screaming pain, i just know that we humans can get through, well a lot more than we might think lol. (You'd be amazed lol)

Just saying. If treatment required taking the same drugs as my DOC, it would be more of a last-option thing.

Ok i'm shuttin' up now :tongue2:

[NA_Wonder]

About 2 months ago I came down with the shingles. Had several patches from my inner thigh all the way down to nearly my ankle on my right leg. I was in pain and went to the emergency room. The doctor confirmed that I did indeed have the shingles and wrote me a prescription for hydrocodone, motrin, famvir, and promethazine. The Motrin was for 800mg caps, so I just took 800mg of Ibuprofen as needed. The first thing I did when I walked out of the ER was to call my sponsor. He told me that if I needed to take any of the hydro's to be very careful. I told him that I could get by without them and I did. The prescription paper is still laying on my dresser I think. I also have a tooth that has been causing pain that needs to be pulled but I've been using aspirin or ibuprofen so far and hopefully I'll get it pulled soon. I have to remember that once I put a mood altering drug into my system, even for legitimate reasons, my addiction starts talking to me. I'm certainly not trying to give anyone any type of medical advice, just sharing my own experience.

[LIL_Pebbles]

I'm going through hell in a taper down, I am craving right now...I know you don't want to go back to the insanity of withrawls, but that is not enough for most to stay away. That dentist is insane lol...however it is doctors like him I like, that would be my addictive side, anway having b/f hold your pills may not work, for this reason? once you feel the old familar high it is a battle, this Rx plus a refill is enough to start you on the wrong path, I would keep about 10 and get ride of the rest, tell the pharmacy your state of being, if you can do this, then your stronger then you think, i think you are, but as in all of us, click that high we don't think with logic...

Best of your will.