will valium help opiate withdrawal
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will valium help opiate withdrawal
I am trying to quick my opiate use, however I do not have the option of major withdrawals as I have an 8 yr old and a job. I have access to some valium and I am curious is that would help with the withdrawals
Thanks for any input
Elise
Thanks for any input
Elise
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Thomas's Recipe
Dear Elsa:
I think Thomas's recipe calls for a benzo of some type, librium or something, to get off opiates. Plus, there are vitamins, immodium, and hot showers. i think the B Vitamins are important. So, it would seem to me, yes.
however, someone else with more knowledge on this subject will follow. So, please check back. good Luck!
Waldo
I think Thomas's recipe calls for a benzo of some type, librium or something, to get off opiates. Plus, there are vitamins, immodium, and hot showers. i think the B Vitamins are important. So, it would seem to me, yes.
however, someone else with more knowledge on this subject will follow. So, please check back. good Luck!
Waldo
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welcome to sr.....glad you found us....
i'm sorry, but i can't give you advice about this.....the safe thing to do would be to ask your doctor.......
how many days sober do you have?
your doctor can help you figure out the best way for you to quit safely....
good luck...
ayla
i'm sorry, but i can't give you advice about this.....the safe thing to do would be to ask your doctor.......
how many days sober do you have?
your doctor can help you figure out the best way for you to quit safely....
good luck...
ayla
benzos can definitely help, but they are extremely, extremely addictive and the withdrawals can be life threatening.
i would not take any, unless you just absolutely had to, and of course, talk to your doctor first
i would not take any, unless you just absolutely had to, and of course, talk to your doctor first
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It is probably a felony to give you advice to take a controlled substance to help with with withdrawal when I believe having "access" to them means they were not prescribed for you.
I would also be responsible if you have medical problems because of it.
Valiums can be highly addictive and have some very bad side effects and withdrawal symptoms. Only a medical doctor can advise you to take controlled substances.
I would also be responsible if you have medical problems because of it.
Valiums can be highly addictive and have some very bad side effects and withdrawal symptoms. Only a medical doctor can advise you to take controlled substances.
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In my opinion ...and this is only my opion Some Benzos ( ex: KLonopin & Xanax) are worse to withdrawal from that heroin. And I agree with Mikiglen
Benzos are extremely, extremely addictive and the withdrawals can be life threatening
Benzos are extremely, extremely addictive and the withdrawals can be life threatening
Those who know me at all here know my first response was
"Option? Huh?"
But I see you seriously feel you need an easier way out. In my humble opinion, meds can be of great help while withdrawing. However, self-prescribing was a pitfall for me in the first days of my journey from opiates and I could easily have overdosed. Not something an 8 year old needs to see, huh?
Please, see a doctor.
Happy to not have shot my mouth off for once, I remain your humble servant,
Da Stagebear
"Option? Huh?"
But I see you seriously feel you need an easier way out. In my humble opinion, meds can be of great help while withdrawing. However, self-prescribing was a pitfall for me in the first days of my journey from opiates and I could easily have overdosed. Not something an 8 year old needs to see, huh?
Please, see a doctor.
Happy to not have shot my mouth off for once, I remain your humble servant,
Da Stagebear
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The usual caveats and disclaimers apply. What follows is a layman's opinion, nothing more, to be discussed with your physician if you think it is appropriate to do so.
My opinion is a big "maybe."
Typical opiate withdrawal symptoms include anxiety and insomnia. Benzos, in moderation, can take the edge off of the anxious and sleepless times. However, another common reaction to opiate withdrawal is depression and lack of energy. Benzos can exacerbate depression and if you are not anxious they will often make you more tired. For these reasons they may be counter-productive.
Nonetheless, for the reasons cited, I think Valium or other benzos can possibly be helpful during the initial stages of withdrawal. Because of their well-known risks I would hope your doctor would give you no more than about a week's supply. You don't want to substitute one addictive substance for another.
Also, IMHO, the agony and discomfort associated with opiate withdrawals is awful to go through but serves as a powerful deterrant to relapsing. If you are totally zoned out during the acute phase of withdrawal (i.e. the first 5 days) then maybe that important "lesson" will be lessened or missed.
Some places tout expensive withdrawal methods that leave a patient in a twilight state of anaesthesia, claiming an essentially "painless" withdrawal. This technique has claimed a few lives in the process. Whether or not a "painless" withdrawal is possible or even desireable is a good topic for discussion. I would love to see the results of any studies on the long-term effectiveness of the "painless" approach. Given no negative reinforcement, is an addict more or less likely to relapse?
More good research is needed.
Buzz
My opinion is a big "maybe."
Typical opiate withdrawal symptoms include anxiety and insomnia. Benzos, in moderation, can take the edge off of the anxious and sleepless times. However, another common reaction to opiate withdrawal is depression and lack of energy. Benzos can exacerbate depression and if you are not anxious they will often make you more tired. For these reasons they may be counter-productive.
Nonetheless, for the reasons cited, I think Valium or other benzos can possibly be helpful during the initial stages of withdrawal. Because of their well-known risks I would hope your doctor would give you no more than about a week's supply. You don't want to substitute one addictive substance for another.
Also, IMHO, the agony and discomfort associated with opiate withdrawals is awful to go through but serves as a powerful deterrant to relapsing. If you are totally zoned out during the acute phase of withdrawal (i.e. the first 5 days) then maybe that important "lesson" will be lessened or missed.
Some places tout expensive withdrawal methods that leave a patient in a twilight state of anaesthesia, claiming an essentially "painless" withdrawal. This technique has claimed a few lives in the process. Whether or not a "painless" withdrawal is possible or even desireable is a good topic for discussion. I would love to see the results of any studies on the long-term effectiveness of the "painless" approach. Given no negative reinforcement, is an addict more or less likely to relapse?
More good research is needed.
Buzz
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That's true Buzz. I almost forgot about the depression that benzos can cause
My new doctor told me that long term benzo use -besides the addiction and horrible,horrible withdrawal- benzos can and do make people depressed. I went thru that. I suppose benzos have there place, but boy oh boy they can be dangerous. I think that they shouldn't be prescribed for more than a week also.
Being an addict I can't have those things around me ....quite honestly I might very well gulp them all down, Even with about 115 days clean....I just can't be around them....IMHO, there just too addictive. Good luck my friend.
My new doctor told me that long term benzo use -besides the addiction and horrible,horrible withdrawal- benzos can and do make people depressed. I went thru that. I suppose benzos have there place, but boy oh boy they can be dangerous. I think that they shouldn't be prescribed for more than a week also.
Being an addict I can't have those things around me ....quite honestly I might very well gulp them all down, Even with about 115 days clean....I just can't be around them....IMHO, there just too addictive. Good luck my friend.
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opiat recovery
my name is andrew and i just became a member when i saw your post on a google search actually. but anyways, i had a 2 year addiction with percocet and oxycottin, and just became sober 9,1,09. i saw your question and i think that my experience could really help you. just reply a message on the site and i might be ably to figure it out...its new to me.
Andrew
Andrew
Andrew, welcome. The post to which you're replying is almost three years old. The original poster hasn't been here since 2007.
Peace & Love,
Sugah
Peace & Love,
Sugah
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Coming off Opiates is a breeze compared to Benzos. I tapered off benzos and have been off of them for 7 months and still feeling some sypmtoms.
I wouldnt mess with them unless supervized by doc for only a week at the very most.
I wouldnt mess with them unless supervized by doc for only a week at the very most.
Originally Posted by Buzz Kilowat
Also, IMHO, the agony and discomfort associated with opiate withdrawals is awful to go through but serves as a powerful deterrant to relapsing.
I feel that benzo's do help with withdrawal but as always one has to be careful how you take it because the last thing you want is a new habit and all the other reasons Buzz mentioned.
I'm pretty sure, Waldo, that it is Vitamin C one wants to take. At least I believe that is what I recieved when I was at rehab.
Benzo's will only help with the anxiety/shakes/restless legs you get from quiting... The diaherra youll need immodium.... it might help you sleep better, but really the best way to get off with nearly no withdrawl that I have exp. is suboxone. in a short term dose... ask your doc. Good luck, god bless.
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